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OT: XML 1.1 (was Re: ZWJ&XML)

From: Mark Davis <mark.davis@icu-project.org>
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 11:08:30 -0600
Message-ID: <30b660a20609131008oad06083g363f19a10635b771@mail.gmail.com>
To: "John Cowan" <cowan@ccil.org>
Cc: unicode@unicode.org, www-international@w3.org

On 9/13/06, John Cowan <cowan@ccil.org> wrote:
> Mark Davis scripsit:
>
> > As I recall, the problem with XML 1.1 adoption was that XML 1.1 was
> > not fully backwards compatible with XML 1.0: there were XML 1.0
> > documents that were not valid XML 1.1.
>
> In the sense that "XML 1.0" names a countably infinite set of abstract
> objects, true; in the sense that "XML 1.0" names a set
> of texts physically fixed in a tangible medium, I venture to doubt it.
> Specifically, I doubt that any Real World XML 1.0 documents contained
> any instances of U+007F through U+009F not as character references.
>
> In exactly the same sense, Unicode 2.0 was not backward compatible with
> Unicode 1.1, a fact which does not seem to have seriously impeded its
> adoption.

That's not a good analogy. Unicode 1.1 was not well established at the
time we decided to change Korean. And the UTC debated long and hard
about whether to make the change, but in the end we did have all the
major implementers on board to make the change AND move to 2.0.
Moreover, there were compelling reasons in the rest of what was in 2.0
for people to move to 2.0. So for that case, we broke backwards
compatibility. It was an extremely painful decision, and we decided
never to do it again.

XML 1.0, on the other hand, was extremely well deployed at the time of
1.1, and there weren't enough compelling new capabilities in 1.1 to
outweigh having multiple implementations.

>
> The issues with XML 1.1 were in fact political; I say no more.

I will. I had a number of conversations with people having sizable,
widely-deployed implementations who were ready to move to XML 1.1, but
decided against it simply because of the compatibility issues. Had 1.1
been backwards-compatible, I have no doubt that they would have simply
upgraded their implementations.

Mark
Received on Wednesday, 13 September 2006 17:08:34 GMT

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