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RE: New test for review: Bidi misc

From: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 12:13:35 +0100
To: "'L. David Baron'" <dbaron@dbaron.org>, "'GEO'" <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>, <www-international@w3.org>
Message-Id: <20041008111334.B88904F234@homer.w3.org>

David, 

Note that GEO tests are not intended to just test the behaviour described in
a spec (though some do) - they explore how user agents handle i18n
situations in general.

Regardless of what the HTML spec says or doesn't, I think there is a case
for this to be fixed, due to what you'd expect a user to see.

RI


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: public-i18n-geo-request@w3.org 
> [mailto:public-i18n-geo-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of L. David Baron
> Sent: 08 October 2004 01:12
> To: GEO; www-international@w3.org
> Subject: Re: New test for review: Bidi misc
> 
> On Thursday 2004-10-07 16:48 -0700, L. David Baron wrote:
> > On Thursday 2004-10-07 15:52 -0700, L. David Baron wrote:
> > > > Richard Ishida wrote:
> > > > >http://www.w3.org/International/tests/sec-bidi-misc-1
> 
> > This actually probably wouldn't be hard to fix, assuming that the 
> > windowing environment supports LRE/RLE and PDF.  And I 
> think I'd lean 
> > towards agreeing that it is a bug.
> 
> I should really get all my thoughts together before I respond.
> 
> I think it may be a good thing to fix.  However, I think 
> doing so would be extending the HTML 4.01 specification, and 
> claiming that failing the test is a bug would require errata 
> to HTML 4.01.
> 
> In particular, a literal interpretation of section 8.2 of 
> HTML 4.01 [1], suggests (although the spec isn't entirely 
> clear) that the dir attribute has an effect on block-level 
> and inline-level elements.  Although, again, the spec isn't 
> entirely clear (but what's new!), the title element seems to 
> me to be neither block-level nor inline-level [2].
> Thus I think HTML 4.01 does not describe any mechanism for 
> either specifying a base direction or an embedding for the 
> title element (or for the contents of any attributes).
> 
> -David
> 
> [1] 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/dirlang.
html#h-8.2
> [2] 
> http://www.w3.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/struct/global.h
tml#h-7.5.3
>     doesn't specify which elements are block-level or 
> inline-level, but
>     title is in neither the %block nor %inline productions in the DTD.
> 
> -- 
> L. David Baron                                <URL: 
> http://dbaron.org/ >
> 
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