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Re: New test for review: Bidi misc

From: Simon Montagu <smontagu@smontagu.org>
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 01:36:23 +0200
Message-ID: <4165D2F7.6070605@smontagu.org>
To: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
Cc: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, GEO <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>, www-international@w3.org

Martin Duerst wrote:
> At 00:22 04/10/08 +0200, Simon Montagu wrote:
>> Richard Ishida wrote:
>>> I have put together a short test to see whether rtl directionality is 
>>> inherited in the window title bar and tooltips.  Please send any 
>>> comments before I add it formally to the site.
>>> http://www.w3.org/International/tests/sec-bidi-misc-1
>>> Preliminary results show that my most recent versions of Opera, IE, 
>>> Firefox, Mozilla and Netscape do not correctly display bidi text in 
>>> the window title bar.
>> I don't agree with this part of the test. In my opinion the direction 
>> of text in the browser title bar should depend on the directionality 
>> of the user interface, not the content currently displayed.
> Any reason why? I could understand that if you said that the allignement
> of the text in the title bar should depend on the directionality of
> the user interface.
> The directionality of the text displayed in a browser
> window (or tab) depends on the directionality given by the content
> displayed (the dir attributes in the HTML code). Why should that
> suddenly be different for the title? If the text were an actual
> phrase, rather than just a series of words, that should be even
> more obvious.

My reasoning is similar to David Baron's : since the title is being 
displayed in the context of the window manager, it is natural to read it 
in the directionality of the desktop as a whole, especially since the 
title bar typically contains additional text, e.g.
[bahrain مصر kuwait] - Mozilla.

For the same reason, I question whether Opera really fails the tooltip 
test, since it displays the title preceded by "Title:", thus placing it 
in an overall left-to-right context.
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