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Re: New test for review: Bidi misc

From: Martin Duerst <duerst@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2004 09:29:33 +0900
Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.J.20041008091936.06298620@localhost>
To: Simon Montagu <smontagu@smontagu.org>
Cc: Richard Ishida <ishida@w3.org>, GEO <public-i18n-geo@w3.org>, www-international@w3.org

At 01:36 04/10/08 +0200, Simon Montagu wrote:

>My reasoning is similar to David Baron's : since the title is being 
>displayed in the context of the window manager, it is natural to read it 
>in the directionality of the desktop as a whole, especially since the 
>title bar typically contains additional text, e.g.
>[bahrain @@@@@ kuwait] - Mozilla.
>
>For the same reason, I question whether Opera really fails the tooltip 
>test, since it displays the title preceded by "Title:", thus placing it in 
>an overall left-to-right context.

Sorry, but I still don't buy it. I don't see my version of Opera
putting "Title:" at the start, but say it did, and overall, the
title bar looked something like this:

     Title: My New Homepage - Opera

where "My New Homepage" came from <title>My New Homepage</title>.
Now let's take an example that, as in the BIDI spec, uses
upper case for RTL, as it appears logically in the source:

     <title dir='rtl'>WE FLEW FROM tokyo TO KAIRO.</title>

It seems very clear to me that the above sentence, should be rendered

     .ORIAK OT tokyo MORF WELF EW

and not

     MORF WELF EW tokyo ORIAK OT.

and that this applies even if we put it into the title bar as

     Title: .ORIAK OT tokyo MORF WELF EW - Opera


Regards,   Martin.
Received on Friday, 8 October 2004 02:52:31 GMT

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