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Re: Use of charset name CNS11643

From: Yung-Fong Tang <ftang@netscape.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:03:36 -0700
Message-ID: <3B2167D8.88E49E2A@netscape.com>
To: Jaimee Clements <jclements@globalsight.com>
CC: Andrea Vine <avine@eng.sun.com>, I18n Prog List <i18n-prog@yahoogroups.com>, "WWW Int'l list" <www-international@w3.org>
Jaimee-
My response is not a generic answer, but a particular answer to Andrea's
question.

That is not an answer to the origional question.
The origional question is
" Given that, has anyone seen the name "CNS11643" being used for EUC-TW,
say, in an HTML document meta tag, an HTTP header, or an email header?
Since neither  name is official, has anyone seen the name "EUC-TW"  used
in such situations?
       Does anyone know if various browser versions generate or
understand these 2  names?  How about mail clients?"

Andrea is asking the NAME of the charset, not we support it or not. And
you are answering a different thing. In her message, "EUC-TW" mean 6
characters 'E', 'U', 'C', '-', 'T', 'W', not the encoding which it
represent to. And my response is Netscape use 8 characters for the name:
'x', '-', 'e', 'u', 'c', '-', 't', 'w'.

Also the question is tide to meta tag, http header or MIME header in
email.

Big5 is never part of her question, therefore, I didn't include it in my
response to complicate thing.

Jaimee Clements wrote:

>  Actually, I believe Netscape 6 supports both Big5 and EUC-TW, doesn't
> it Frank?...Jaimee.....................................Jaimee Clements
>
> eGlobalization Strategist
> Email: jclements@globalsight.com
> Phone: + 1 408 . 392 . 3676.....................................
>
>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: ftang@netscape.com [mailto:ftang@netscape.com]
>      Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 2:47 PM
>      To: Andrea Vine
>      Cc: I18n Prog List; WWW Int'l list
>      Subject: Re: Use of charset name CNS11643
>
>
>      Andrea Vine wrote:
>
>     > All,
>     > I received a question which is quite difficult to answer.
>     > I'd like to preface
>     > this with a few statements so as to avoid unrelated info:
>     >
>     > 1.  I know that CNS11643 is a coded character set (CCS)
>     > from the Taiwan gov't
>     > standards body.
>     > 2.  I know that a CCS is not the same thing as a character
>     > encoding scheme
>     > (CES).
>     >
>     > 3.  I use the term "charset" to refer to the name of a
>     > particular combination of
>     > CCS and CES, for example, the charset EUC-TW.
>     >
>     > Given that, has anyone seen the name "CNS11643" being used
>     > for EUC-TW, say, in
>     > an HTML document meta tag, an HTTP header, or an email
>     > header?  Since neither
>     > name is official, has anyone seen the name "EUC-TW"  used
>     > in such situations?
>     > Does anyone know if various browser versions generate or
>     > understand these 2
>     > names?  How about mail clients?
>
>      I think netscape use "x-euc-tw" instead of "euc-tw" . I
>      don't think we use "cns11643"
>
>      Also, please see the old study erik van der poel did before:
>
>      http://people.netscape.com/erik/easier-web/
>      see
>      Web protocol statistics:  US  Japan  Germany
>
>      Do NOT send mail to erik@netscape.com . erik no longer work
>      for Netscape and that email address is invalid now.
>
>
>     >
>     > Is anyone actively working on registering the charset
>     > names EUC-TW or EUC-CN
>     > with IANA?
>
>      10 years ago, while I still work for III (Institute for
>      Information Industry), DEC help use to register CNS 11643-1
>      and 2 to ISO registry. In that time, it is very hard to
>      register any thing from Taiwan since all International
>      standard body do not recognize Taiwan as a country since it
>      is not part of UN and afraid of making PRC govement mad. DEC
>      registry CNS 11643-1 and 2 to ISO registry as a company. I
>      thing the same kind of problem still exist now, 10 years
>      later. Don't expect any govement organization / standard
>      body from Taiwan can do that job. Those international
>      standard body simply will shut them down, at least those
>      organization in Taiwan belive that way- which may be still
>      the case as today.
>
>
>
>     >
>     >
>     > Thanks for any information,
>     > Andrea Vine
>     > iPlanet i18n architect
>     > avine@eng.sun.com
>
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