W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > www-html@w3.org > April 2007

Re: HTML5 script start tag should select appropriate content model according to src

From: David Woolley <forums@david-woolley.me.uk>
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:16:18 +0100
Message-ID: <4634FD12.3050307@david-woolley.me.uk>
To: www-html@w3.org

Henri Sivonen wrote:
> 
> More to the point, even if "we" want it, is it realistic to expect 
> casual authors to produce semantic markup?

I suspect that most casual authors would be just as happy with sending 
final form over the wire, in which case the only revisable form that 
needs to exist is that proprietary to the authoring tool.  (You lose 
accessibility advantages, but that wont' concern most authors.  Google 
already indexes final form (PDF) documents.)  They might even be happier 
with final form, as the appearence would be more predictable.  The real 
thing that stops them is that they don't understand the technology well 
enough to consider that there might be alternatives.

If you look at tools like ASP.NET and MS Reporting Services, they use 
HTML to generate essentially fixed format documents, and, in the latter 
case, offer PDF and bitmaps as well.  ASP.NET is Windows forms on web 
browsers, and only uses HTML because web browsers use it.

Also, as has been pointed out, and as Apple's iWeb demonstrates, authors 
can be quite happy with only div, span, img and a sent over the wire in 
the body.  With semantic free HTML, almost everything is in the style 
attributes.  That suggests that HTML5 has far too many element types for 
that market.
Received on Sunday, 29 April 2007 20:16:45 GMT

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.2.0+W3C-0.50 : Tuesday, 27 March 2012 18:16:09 GMT