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From: MAISONNY Benoit <Benoit.MAISONNY@eurocontrol.int>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2002 15:55:33 +0200
Message-ID: <779D622F93F6D311ADDA0008C70DA9F604491A95@agnbe02.mis.eurocontrol.be>
To: Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer <schnitz@mozquito.com>, www-html@w3.org, xml-dev@lists.xml.org

Sebastian,

I appreciate your concern and yes, I do use real parsers for myself :-)
But... this DTD I am working on is meant to be spread world wide in the
aviation industry and used by many kinds of organisations. It will be
difficult to tell all these people not to use MS's parser. And as a matter
of fact, one of our first beta user is (still) using it. Maybe I need to
take some evangelisation courses ;-)

I'm keeping an eye on XHTML m12n with XML Schema, but it seems far from
being there:
http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/xhtml-roadmap/#schedule.

Benoit



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer [mailto:schnitz@mozquito.com]
> Sent: 28 June 2002 14:25
> To: MAISONNY Benoit; www-html@w3.org; xml-dev@lists.xml.org
> Subject: Re: [xml-dev] XHTML modularisation causes strange error with
> MSXML
> 
> 
> Benoit,
>  
> if it works in Xerces but not with MSXML I unfortunately
> can't help. No, I don't know of any workarounds. The only
> reason I'm writing you is because I would hate to see this
> become your reason to not use the M12N. Can't you just
> use a real XML parser ;-)?
>  
> Perhaps the ongoing work on M12N in XML Schema may
> solve this problem once for all in the future, since the HTML
> WG had to do a lot of tricks with DTDs to make the M12N
> happen in the first place. With XML Schema, M12N seems
> to be more straight-forward [1].
>  
> - Sebastian
>  
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-m12n-schema/
> 
> 	-----Urspr√ľngliche Nachricht----- 
> 	Von: MAISONNY Benoit 
> 	Gesendet: Fr 28.06.2002 14:08 
> 	An: 'www-html@w3.org'; 'xml-dev@lists.xml.org' 
> 	Cc: 
> 	Betreff: [xml-dev] XHTML modularisation causes strange error
> with MSXML
> 	
> 	
> 
> 	Hello,
> 	
> 	I wrote a DTD for a type of aeronautical document, using XHTML
> 	Modularisation. This worked fine until I tried to validate the
> DTD and
> 	sample documents with MSXML4 SP1 (and earlier). Needless to say
> they
> 	validate with Xerces and ElCel's xmlvalid (and even with XMLSpy,
> after
> 	adding a space into empty parameter entities).
> 	
> 	I found some messages on xml-dev[1] and www-html[2] related to
> MSXML in the
> 	context of XHTML m12n and 1.1, but I can't find any
> solution/workaround for
> 	the following error message (output by xmlint.exe, Microsoft's
> validator):
> 	
> 	    A name was started with an invalid character.
> 	    URL: file:///H:/eAIP/_dev/xhtml/eAIP/sample7-id.xml
> 	    Line 00001: &&
> 	    Pos  00002: -^
> 	
> 	As you can expect, that file begins with <?xml ... and not with
> && or
> 	whatever.
> 	
> 	A page[3] on microsoft.com explains this can be caused by
> encoding issues,
> 	but it is not my case: I checked the files at byte level to be
> sure (they
> 	are UTF-8). It doesn't seem to be an OS issue neither (same on
> NT4 & win98).
> 	
> 	I suppose it's a bug in MSXML and I won't wait for MS to correct
> it for me
> 	:-)
> 	So my question is rather: what causes this error? Is there a
> workaround? (I
> 	am not against a small change in the DTD that would magically
> please MSXML.)
> 	Should I give up XHTML m12n and instead adapt XHTML 1.0
> extensively to suit
> 	my needs? (not that I want to!)
> 	
> 	Thanks for any help and sorry for cross-posting,
> 	Benoit
> 	
> 	[1] http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200106/msg00502.html
> 	    http://lists.xml.org/archives/xml-dev/200106/msg00616.html
> 	[2]
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html/2002May/0036.html
> 	[3]
> 	
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/dnwebte
am/h
	tml/webteam08062001.asp
	
	
......................................................................
	Benoit MAISONNY
benoit.maisonny@eurocontrol.int
	eAIP development & support
http://www.eurocontrol.int/ais/ahead/eaip
	EUROCONTROL                        Aeronautical Information
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