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RE: XHTML 2.0 - <line> or <l>?

From: Richard Norman <normri@samc.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:37:59 -0800
Message-Id: <se0c2d8d.051@samc.com>
To: <www-html@w3.org>

While I agree, I would use <cell> instead of <td>  it is just a little
bit more readable without too much overhead. <tr> maybe changed to <row>
and maybe create a <col> tag for just a column of data.  but row would
suffice for that requirement.  Anyway, I would say that shortening tags
were feasible is a good thing as long as clarity is still maintained. 
Going from <line> to <l>  is a little stretch in the clarity department,
but <ln> for line is a little better.
Just my opinion...
Richard K. Norman II
Web/Application Developer
Saint Agnes Medical Center
Email: Richard.Norman@samc.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Jonny Axelsson <jax@opera.no> 
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 2:10 AM
To: <www-html@w3.org>
Subject: Re: XHTML 2.0 - <line> or <l>?

On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:53:35 EST, <SCJessey@aol.com> wrote: 

> I finally got a chance to look over the latest Working Draft for XHTML

> 2.0 and I was disappointed to see that the <line> element has been 
> altered to read <l> instead. 
> Does anyone else think this is a bad idea?  On some text editors, it 
> looks an awful lot like the old HTML italic tag which will doubtless 
> cause confusion. 

There is a SVG element called line (for a line segment, not a line of 
verse). This will cause no problem for a namespace aware user agent
the namespaces are different), but may make the code harder to read or 
refer to. 

More importantly, size matters. I wouldn't expect the 'l' element to be 
used in most pages, but where it is used, it will be used a lot. Having
'table' or 'caption' element is a good idea, but replacing 'td' with 
'table_cell' for consistency would be a bad idea. Most of the code in a 
typical data table is markup, it isn't uncommon that the table blows up
ten times or more the original size (that maybe used a tab separated 
format), and this is using as minimal element names as 'tr', 'td' and

The case for 'l'/'line' is less strong than 'td'/'table_cell', but it is

quite equivalent to the case for 'tr', a line of table. 

Jonny Axelsson, 
Web Standards, 
Opera Software 

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