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Re: DISCONTINUE : In support of the "line space" (nee <hr>)

From: <SCJessey@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 19:22:49 EDT
Message-ID: <183.d66b592.2a9c1249@aol.com>
To: www-html@w3.org
David Majda writes:

<<I don't want to do hackery with <div>'s. What I need is to write hr
sometimes, and style it in my CSS so that it looks how I want. I don't
care if it is structural or presentational, it simply serves it's purpose.

You have a great opportunity to stop the progress of the web, because if
   XHTML 2.0 goes out without <hr>, I simply won't use it. And if there
will be more useful features "forgotten" in the spec, nobody will use it.>>

To me, the <hr /> element is purely presentational.  Applying a CSS border 
rule to almost any block will mimic the behavior of the horizontal rule so I 
don't believe it to be necessary.

The only example I can think of where it might be necessary is if the author 
is attempting to present a document to a user agent that is not CSS-aware and 
such an element is required, but the same could be said for a great many 
other pseudo-presentational elements.

Who would have thought that such a little (largely decorative) tag could 
generate so much heated discussion?

Simon Jessey
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Received on Monday, 26 August 2002 19:23:22 UTC

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