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Comments on "section", "LinkTypes" and "quote" in XHTML 2.0 WD

From: Christian Ottosson <christian@ottosson.name>
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:24:35 +0200
Message-Id: <p05100305b975415276eb@[212.105.15.123]>
To: www-html@w3.org

Hi!

I'm very glad to see the structural elements "section" and "h" as 
well as "line" in the XHTML 2.0. Those are the element I have missed 
most in previous HTML versions. I assume there will be some 
discussions about the events model and if it belong in a semantic 
language.

_section_
When it comes to "section" [1] and "h" [2] the WD doesn't clearly say 
if the "h" corresponding to (introducing) a "section" should be 
included (mostly as the first element) in that section. The 
alternative would be to precede the section. I think it should be 
included in the section as it strucuraly belongs to it. Therefore I 
also think that the first "h" (previosly "h1") should be included in 
a "section". Often a XHTML document contains information, such as 
menus and footers, that not belongs even to the header of highest 
level. Then, with the primary header and belongings wrapped in "a 
section" it would be obvious what belongs to the that header and 
which parts that doesn't.

_LinkTypes_
In the data type "LinkTypes" [3] I would like to see the widely 
discussed linktype "Parent", analogous to "Next" and "Prev", 
indicating a parent document, the parent in a hierarchy. Today, 
"parents" are often indicated by so called "breadcrumb menus", but 
this would offer a logic way to do it. I suggest the name "Parent" in 
preference to "Up" as "Parent" follows a consistent naming convention 
with "Next" and "Prev". "Up" would be consistent with "Forward" and 
"Backward" or "Left" and "Right"

Maybe the purpose of "LinkTypes" is ought to be handled by RDF in the 
future, but as long as linktypes exists it should be consistent.

_quote_
For the element "quote" [4] the rules for quotation marks are a bit 
different from "q" (agents are not required to add them). What is the 
recommended way to semantically correct add quotation marks in a 
"quote"? Should they be included by means of a stylesheet 
("quote:before/after" in CSS) or written directly in the XHTML 
document? Does the same yield for "blockqoute" if marks are wanted 
there?

Thanks for a long awaited WD! Good job!

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-text.html#edef_text_section
[2] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-text.html#edef_text_h
[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/abstraction.html#dt_LinkTypes
[4] http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-text.html#edef_text_quote
-- 
Christian Ottosson
Norrköping, Sweden
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