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Re: Seperating Document Content from Structure (was RE: inline CSS - score so far)

From: Walter Ian Kaye <walter@natural-innovations.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:29:54 -0800
Message-Id: <v04220802b4da95e5e894@[63.193.119.97]>
To: www-html@w3.org
At 11:37a -0600 02/23/00, David Wagner didst inscribe upon an 
electronic papyrus:
>I hope this clarifies the question.  What do y'all think?  Is seperation of
>structure, content, and style a Good Idea? -David

In fact, it's often necessary. (btw, that's sepAration...;)

>...
><!-- Straw fragment of HTML with content seperated from structure. -->
><style type="text/RobustStyleSheet">
>.warning {background-color:yellow;color:magenta;}
>/*Selectors apply styles to classes, elements and parts of
>   specific elements, as in the following nonsyntactical example.*/
>
>   ThirdThroughFifthWordOfSecondSentanceOfP#002 {font-weight:bold;}
></style>
>...
><h1 id="title" src="dbquery0#record001"/>
><h2 id="sec001" src="dbquery1#record001"/>
>  <p id="p001" src="dbquery2?sec=001#record001"/>
>  <p id="p002" src="dbquery2?sec=001#record002"/>
>  <p id="p003" src="dbquery2?sec=001#record003"/>
><h2 id="sec002" src="dbquery1#record002"/>
>  <p id="p004" src="dbquery2?sec=002#record001"/>
>  <div class="warning">
>   <p id="p005" src="dbquery2?sec=002#record002"/>
>   <p id="p006" src="dbquery2?sec=002#record003"/>
>  </div>
>  <p id="p007" src="dbquery2?sec=002#record004"/>
>...

But how can the file know how many records (or whatever items) there will be?


At 01:06p -0500 02/23/00, Patrice Calve didst inscribe upon an 
electronic papyrus:
>As you can imagine, if you change the look of one page, you can't simply ask
>the artist to poke around in the DLLs and the ASP files.  Big Problem:  How
>to merge a new look with the existing code.

You also can't ask copy-writers to muck with even simple HTML (but we 
all try to help them learn some basic HTML anyway...;).

>The earlier approach was to have an artist/designer creat a dummy web page
>in HTML, programmers converted it to ASP (microsoft IIS) and probably use
>DLLs for managing the data, depending on the size and speed of the site.

Eeesh. What I do is create an HTML template file (I like to use 
*.htpl as a naming convention) and put placeholders in it:

<HTML>
<HEAD>
<TITLE>`FOO</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY>

<H1>`BAR</H1>

blah blah blah

</BODY>
</HTML>

Then a Perl CGI slurps the file into a variable, does some s// on the 
placeholders, and serves the result.

$html =~ s/`FOO/$foo/g;
$html =~ s/`BAR/$bar/g;

Clean and simple. HTML remains pure HTML, and the web designer can 
easily modify the template file without seeing any programming code 
at all.


-boo
Received on Thursday, 24 February 2000 03:30:23 GMT

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