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Re: Off topic; Re: Dropdown Menu Trouble

From: Jan Roland Eriksson <jrexon@newsguy.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 02:13:12 +0100
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 16:18:44 -0500, "Francis X. Speiser Jr."
<webmaster@cablevision-boston.com> wrote:

>> You are doing several things wrong:
>> 1. This is off topic for this list.

>I respectfully disagree.

Ok, so noticed. Still the W3 lists are the only "official" place in the
world, that I know of, where one on occasions can spot an occurrence of
W3 officials to really discuss matters of markup "developments"

It might be a good idea not to encourage "help-desk" activities here,
lest we normal mortals loose this last "string between tin cans" type of
communication that still exists. 


>> 3. Both frames and drop down menus of links
>> reduce usability. Use a normal site with
>> normal links.
>A decent portion of the posts to this list since I brought it up, somehow
>convey the real need to have the functionality of frames.

Proper ways to design user friendly, forward/backward compatible, "frame
killer sites" was defined in HTML/CSS recommendations years ago.

Some "cutting edge technology" company out there only need to...

1) Discover it...

2) Get their programmers in gear on it.


>Also, so this message has some kind of value, I would agree with John Grant
>in his last post when he says:
>"It would be nice if div
>had a float over frame feature ;)"
>That would be truly nice. How about it, W3C guys? Does anyone know if that
>would be covered by applet or object?

Unless I read that JG "idea" totally wrong, it sounds suspiciously much
like you both wants to have some kind of verb-type-feature attached to a
DIV element type of markup.

RTFM on principles of descriptive markup comes to mind if that's the
case. Defined tag names are _nouns_ and nothing else. But that has been
abused of course, Netscape CENTER and BLINK immediately comes to mind.

CSS offers ways to attach "verbish type suggestions" to marked up
elements in a document, so...

3) More programmers to RTFM and get into gear...

In all honesty, some of them are trying their very best on just that,
but not all and every one. YAKWIM...

Jan Roland Eriksson <jrexon@newsguy.com>
Received on Tuesday, 15 February 2000 20:07:45 UTC

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