Re: HTML4.0 draft: comments re: inclusio

Arnoud (galactus@htmlhelp.com)
Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:59:33 +0200


From: galactus@htmlhelp.com (Arnoud "Galactus" Engelfriet)
To: www-html@w3.org
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 18:59:33 +0200
Message-ID: <1TXG04uYOZAK089yn@htmlhelp.com>
Subject: Re: HTML4.0 draft: comments re: inclusio

In article <199709120654.IAA26565@se2000.sebank.se>,
hass.chapman@sebank.se (Chapman, Hass) wrote:
> Anyone who expects the web to become standardised anytime soon is just 
> kidding themselves. 

Sounds a bit defeatist to me. Does this mean we'll just have to let
NS and MS introduce even more tags and attributes, and try to clean up
the mess in a year or two?

> Market forces will force those who create 
> web-browsers to add more and more features. 

That would be a good thing, if the browser authors could implement
some *useful* features for a change, and implement things like CSS
correctly(!).

> Added to this will be the 
> increasing number of plug-ins available for those browsers offering 
> enhancements not possible with pure HTML. That's not including the 
> increasing number of scripting features!
> This is GOOD. It offers more functionality to the user/publisher. 

Why is it good? I see no reason why the *capability* to use feature X
means that a "publisher" *has* to use it. 

In any case, what does this have to do with HTML? Installing and
configuring plugins is really platform-specific, and as far as HTML
is concerned, a sequence of embedded OBJECT elements can be used to
supply the content in various formats.

> To say that web authors should limit themselves to only those features 
> available in the HTML standards, and supported by minority browsers, when 
> over 90% of web users have either IE3.x or Netscape3.x or higher, and an 
> increasing number have both, is just ludicrous! 

Who has said this? I don't recall anything about not being allowed to
embed or enclose a Shockwave movie or a Java applet in an HTML document.
The discussion is more about how to provide such enhancements in a
well-degrading way, so that people who turn off the plugin can still
read the document.

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