Re: HTML4.0 draft: comments re: inclusion of frames

James Nerlinger, Jr. (
Fri, 05 Sep 1997 23:44:49 -0400

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Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 23:44:49 -0400
From: "James Nerlinger, Jr." <>
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Subject: Re: HTML4.0 draft: comments re: inclusion of frames

>The problem is, that if it should become necessary to support both framed
>and standard pages, then that increases the workload on the webweaver.
>Perhaps the easiest 'solution' would be to encourage non-frame browser
>coders to upgrade their products to at least be able to parse framesets, and
>then simply 'display' (in whatever sense) a menu of all the linked pages for
>the user to select from.

That would be all good and well, but unless it is a part of the standard,
the non-frame browser coders will not add it.  It's like anything else --
if it is not required, then we do not need to do it.  :(

Adding frames to the 4.0 specification at least puts it in there -- it does
not add a significant workload increase and there is no requirement that a
web site design for both frame and non-frame -- it's entirely up to the
webmaster whether nor not to use the styling.  I find frames essential in
some of the work I do, and in others they are merely burdensome and I do
not use them.  At least with it standardized we have the option and other
browser-makers will be prompted to support the new specification which
means in some cases it will not be necessary to code both a frame and a
non-frame version (which can sometimes amount to developing TWO COMPLETE
sites -- yuck!).

Speaking of added specs....  :)  I'd love to see the Microsoft <BGSOUND>
tag adopted -- it would be great to sum all sound embeds into a single,
simple tag, especially with Netscape's screwy sound setup where sometime
embeds work and sometimes they don't.  But, I digress.  :)

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