Re: Some complaints about HTML 4.0

Liam Quinn (liam@htmlhelp.com)
Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:43:53 -0400


Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19970714084353.0088e540@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca>
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 08:43:53 -0400
To: Stephanos Piperoglou <spip@hol.gr>
From: Liam Quinn <liam@htmlhelp.com>
Subject: Re: Some complaints about HTML 4.0
Cc: www-html@w3.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970714144201.163C-100000@fenchurch.hol.gr>

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At 02:58 PM 14/07/97 +0300, Stephanos Piperoglou wrote:
>I'm for non-breaking spaces not collapsing. The correct syllogism is:
>
>- Only whitespace collapses
>- Whitespace is only tabs, spaces and newlines
>- &nbsp; is neither tab, space, or newline.
>------------------
>Ergo, &nbsp; doesn't collapse

To me this is the most valid argument made.  But is there some kind of 
standard (e.g., ISO 8859-1 or Unicode) that says that whitespace is "only 
tabs, spaces and newlines"?

>In my reckoning, to avoid wrong practise, you
>can't just make it impossible. You just have to offer a viable 
alternative.
>With CSS and CSS positioning there's no reason people will resort to 
&nbsp;
>for creating spaces.

They might just because it's HTML and that means they don't have to learn 
CSS.  Look at all the people still using <FONT FACE> and friends.  I guess 
some would justify that based on browser support, but there are people who 
use the BACKGROUND attribute for table cells even though the CSS 
equivalent is better supported.

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