Message-Id: <199707131157.GAA01314@mx2.io.com> From: "Dataweaver" <email@example.com> To: firstname.lastname@example.org Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 04:52:38 +0007 Subject: Re: Some complaints about HTML 4.0 On 12 Jul 97 at 22:57, email@example.com wrote: > Liam Quinn wrote: > >> Empty P elements are similar to multiple BR elements in a lot of > >> ways... > > David Perrell wrote: > > Define lot. In a typical rendering, BR forces a line space, P has > > vertical margins. [...many other differences deleted...] > > Liam wasn't arguing that P's were like BR's -- he argued that > *empty* P elements are similar to *multiple* BR elements. I > was going to disagree with him at first, but now I think he's > sort of right--on a structural level, the semantic content of an > empty P is equivalent to the semantic content of two or more BRs. > > <P></P> says "There is a paragraph here that contains nothing." > <BR><BR> says "There are multiple line breaks here." While a <P>...</P> element defines a paragraph, it doesn't neccessarily define it by "seperated from surrounding text by blank lines"; I've seen one browser (I forget which one) Which renders a paragraph in a more textually-traditional manner of indenting the first line, and having no top or bottom margins to speak of. The margins used for a <P>...</P> block are definitely presentation in nature, and as such can _easily_ vary. ---- Jonathan Lang <firstname.lastname@example.org> ---- x ------- alias: Dataweaver --------- Webpage: http://www.io.com/~traveler /@\ The Dogma of Otherness insists Benevolent Tyrant for Life of GURPSnet ~~~ that all voices deserve a hearing, FAQ: http://www.io.com/~ftp/GURPSnet/www | that all points of view have Archive: http://www.io.com/~ftp/GURPSnet | something of value to offer. submit new files to email@example.com | --David Brin, "Otherness"