Re: Style Sheet Support (was:Fw: Images and formatting of lists, keywords in <a>)

Chris Wilson (cwilso@MICROSOFT.com)
Wed, 6 Aug 1997 18:36:32 -0700


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From: "Chris Wilson (PSD)" <cwilso@MICROSOFT.com>
To: "'Chuck White'" <lillyming@earthlink.net>,
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 18:36:32 -0700
Subject: RE: Style Sheet Support (was:Fw: Images and formatting of lists,  	keywords in <a>)

Hahahahahahaha!  "Army of software engineers responsible for said
support"?  Umm, well, there are maybe three.  I'm the main stylesheets
person, and we have a number of people responsible for the text engine,
about two of whom do seriously stylesheet-related work on a regular
basis.

This is, of course, not to denigrate the contributions of our program
management and testers, et al - they contribute greatly to the overall
effort.

	-Chris
Chris Wilson
cwilso@microsoft.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Chuck White [SMTP:lillyming@earthlink.net]
> Sent:	Wednesday, August 06, 1997 12:16 PM
> To:	Marc A. Duncan; www-html@w3.org
> Subject:	Re: Style Sheet Support (was:Fw: Images and formatting
> of lists, keywords in <a>)
> 
> Marc A. Duncan wrote:
> 
> > Ok, I thought that style sheets were supposed to do all that, too.
> > But in
> > my attempt to use style sheet, I have found that they are basically
> > unsupported.  In general those who do support them, don't support
> most
> > of
> > the most important things they can do, making them pretty much
> > useless.  On
> > top of that, most browsers just simply do not recognize them.  That
> > means
> > they are, at this point, totally useless.  I feel that UA developers
> > need
> > to have more pressure placed on them to incorporate this powerful
> > technology as quickly as possible.
> >
> > I guess that it probably wouldn't be a bad idea to reincorporate
> > things
> > into html which have been removed because of style sheets.  They can
> > always
> > be removed in later versions once style sheets are better supported.
> >
> > Marc A. Duncan
> > M&A Duncan
> >
> 
>  What, exactly, is it that browsers aren't supporting? IE 4.0 supports
> just about every property in the CSS1 recommendations, as well as
> those
> for CSS positioning, in addition to a wealth of well defined DOM
> properties and methods. As for Netscape's spotty support of Style
> Sheets, I can't imagine a more persuasive source of pressure than
> Microsoft's army of software engineers responsible for said support.
> Even with Netscape's spotty support, give me a 4.0 browser, and I'll
> give you a CSS page (a little sloppy still code-wise, but a CSS page
> nonetheless).
> 
> regards,
> -- chuck white
> chuckw@javertising.com
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>