Re: Frame document structure (fwd)

Scott E. Preece (preece@predator.urbana.mcd.mot.com)
Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:26:43 -0500


Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 11:26:43 -0500
Message-Id: <199609061626.LAA08651@predator.urbana.mcd.mot.com>
From: "Scott E. Preece" <preece@predator.urbana.mcd.mot.com>
To: smishra@cc.gatech.edu
CC: megazone@livingston.com, www-html@w3.org
In-reply-to: Sunil Mishra's message of Fri, 6 Sep 1996 10:51:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Frame document structure (fwd)

 From: Sunil Mishra <smishra@cc.gatech.edu>
| 
| The entire frames idea is a presentation issue, and should be treated as
| such. The structural markup is completely hidden away. There is no reason
| why the <link> tag (in the head) along with stylesheets cannot give all the
| functionality for a much smaller penalty, without adding any new tags.
---

I agree that the bulk of the functionality could be represented as
LINKs, if people were willing to standardize a few REL values, though
the use of LINKs doesn't help at all with the bookmarking issue,
assuming you care about bookmarking a multi-window configuration.  I
don't think these concerns fit well in the current scope of stylesheets
- although perhaps they could be abstracted in an orthogonal LAYOUT
specification mechanism.

I have to disagree, though, with the notion that it is entirely a
presentation issue.  The collection of frames and frame contents and
their interrelationships is very much a structural issue.  I tend to
think the right way to handle this is with a DTD for compound documents,
which would allow an author to express the needed relationships and
would also allow the browser to use the same notation to synthesize the
current state of a compound document (what the pieces are at the moment
and the locations within them) so that it could save it as a local file
it could point a bookmark at.

I don't think the current frames models are rich enough to be that
notation.

scott

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