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Re: [Fwd: Re: WAI proposed enhancements]

From: Ian B. Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 14:15:02 -0500
Message-ID: <345396B6.16D0B404@w3.org>
To: Dan Connolly <connolly@w3.org>
CC: www-html-editor@w3.org
Dan Connolly wrote:
> 
> Excellent detail work, Dave.
> 
> I think that example (and discussion about
> new/old browsers) is a great one to
> copy-and-paste into the spec.

Since we already have a (slightly larger) similar example
of OPTGROUP that already raises the issue of how old/new
user agents might render the list, 
I don't think we need this additional example.

Ian


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> 
> Subject: RE: WAI proposed enhancements
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:34:05 -0400 ()
> From: Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>
> To: Scott Isaacs <scotti@microsoft.com>
> CC: "'Dan Connolly'" <connolly@w3.org>,
>      "'w3c-html-wg@w3.org'" <w3c-html-wg@w3.org>
> 
> On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Scott Isaacs wrote:
> 
> > Premature send...
> > <SELECT name="ComOS">
> >   <OPTGROUP value =washington>
> >     <OPTION VALUE=vancouver>Vancouver
> >   <OPTGROUP value="british columbia">
> >     <option value=vancouver>Vancouver
> > </SELECT>
> 
> This is invalid with respect to the Oct 24th Draft of HTML 4.0.
> 
> You need to add the end tags for OPTGROUP, and to drop the value
> attribute on OPTGROUP. It would also make sense to tailor the
> labels for the options and groups for viewing on both old and
> new browsers, e.g.
> 
> <SELECT name="ComOS">
>   <OPTGROUP label="Washington">
>     <OPTION VALUE="Vancouver WA"
>         label="Vancouver">Vancouver, Washington
>   </OPTGROUP>
>   <OPTGROUP label="British Columbia">
>     <option value="Vancouver BC"
>         label="Vancouver">Vancouver, British Columbia
>   </OPTGROUP>
> </SELECT>
> 
> People using old browsers would see the flat list:
> 
>   Vancouver, Washington
>   Vancouver, British Columbia
> 
> People using new browsers would see the hierarchy:
> 
>   Washtington
>      Vancouver
>   British Columbia
>      Vancouver
> 
> I hope you will agree that this provides a workable solution
> that allows the same markup to be viewed effectively on both
> old and new browsers.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -- Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org> http://www.w3.org/People/Raggett
> phone: +44 122 578 2984 (or 2521) +44 385 320 444 (gsm mobile)
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