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Re: Loan Application Form Example based on the XForms Simplified Syntax

From: John Boyer <boyerj@ca.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 13:42:15 -0700
To: Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>
Cc: www-forms@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF18C35527.B967D2BC-ON882574B3.006D254D-882574B3.0071C0CC@ca.ibm.com>
Hi Erik,

Yes, a version of my "purchase order" form is in the works now.  I'm 
building up the canonical version, and some time after that, Thomas will 
be able to convert that to the simplified syntax along the lines of the 
email link.

The loan form is just a simpler form that allows experimentation with the 
stream-lined syntax to begin with a smaller set of required capabilities 
before reaching a demonstrable first result.  Also, this will ensure that 
work on the stream-lined purchase order form will proceed on a foundation 
of working basic components.

But, it's a good point you've made that even the simple loan form needs 
the alternate form based on XPath variables.  A repeat-based form might 
uncover bugs in that implementation, but it should be possible to work on 
the XPath variable feature even with the simpler form (though it'll 
probably be approached as a separate feature to be done after the first 
form is working).

Cheers,
John M. Boyer, Ph.D.
Senior Technical Staff Member
Lotus Forms Architect and Researcher
Chair, W3C Forms Working Group
Workplace, Portal and Collaboration Software
IBM Victoria Software Lab
E-Mail: boyerj@ca.ibm.com 

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From:
Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>
To:
www-forms@w3.org
Date:
08/28/2008 12:02 PM
Subject:
Re: Loan Application Form Example based on the XForms Simplified Syntax




Thomas,

That looks pretty good. I am not sure in what context exactly this 
proposal is made, but one concern I have relates to the lack of repeat 
in this example: some of the tricky aspects we discussed in the group 
in the past related to the way we would handle repeats with the 
simplified syntax. In particular, repeats have led us to suggest a 
notation using XPath variables (which had other benefits, such as 
providing more location independence for the controls). Do you have a 
plan of producing an example using repeats then?

-Erik

On Aug 27, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Thomas Ling wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> I posted a Simplified Syntax Loan Application Form Example on the
> ubiquity-xforms wiki
>
> http://code.google.com/p/ubiquity-xforms/wiki/SimplifiedLoanForm
>
> The example is based on John's Proposal on Simplified Syntax
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-forms/2008Mar/0097.html
> with some tentative syntaxes added,  in order to make the example 
> complete.
>
> The example is created to outline a basic implementation of the Forms
> WG simplified syntax
> suitable for HTML4 forms authors using the ubiquity-xforms codebase.
> You can found the story here:
> http://code.google.com/p/ubiquity-xforms/wiki/StorySimplifiedSyntax
>
> Please let me know if you have any comment.
>
> Thanks
>
> Thomas
>
>

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