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Re: checkbox labels

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:30:42 +0000
Message-ID: <640dd5060702010430o43d355b6n71cf26feda7f7ca3@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Aaron Reed" <aaronr@us.ibm.com>
Cc: www-forms@w3.org

Shouldn't the position be dependent on the language, too?

On 01/02/07, Aaron Reed <aaronr@us.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Good catch Leigh, thanks.  I did use the wrong pseudo-element.  Changing
> to ::value didn't help, though.  Maybe XSmiles does have a bug.  I'm
> still interested if any of the other processors allow for something similar.
>
> As an aside, reading the XForms 1.0 spec it says about ::value ->
> "...This pseudo-element is a child of the form control element, and
> appears immediately after the required label element".  Due to the goal
> I'm trying to achieve, I vote that this be removed from the spec unless
> xf:label is changed to say that it must appear before the form control
> that represents the xforms control element.  I don't mind that the
> default behavior be that the label appears first.  But I also think
> allowing for alternatives shouldn't be prohibited.
>
> --Aaron
>
> Klotz, Leigh wrote:
> > The examples from Mikko's site show
> >  output.total::value {font-size:12pt;color:red;width:100pt;margin-left:
> > 10px;caption-side: left;}
> >
> > It's possible it's broken in X-Smiles, but the bug notes say it worked.
> >
> > Also, you have xforms|input::xf-value which is a combination of CSS3 and
> > Mozilla workaround.
> > Maybe you tried xforms|input::value and this is just a typo.
> >
> > Leigh.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org] On
> > Behalf Of Aaron Reed
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 3:40 PM
> > To: www-forms@w3.org
> > Subject: Re: checkbox labels
> >
> >
> > Hi Leigh,
> >
> > I tried that, but had no luck.  Here is the testcase I used.  No
> > combination of the three style selectors (or any of them alone) worked
> > for me using XSmiles alpha version.
> >
> > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
> > <!-- basic FO page definition stuff -->
> > <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
> > xmlns:xforms="http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms"
> > xmlns:ev="http://www.w3.org/2001/xml-events"
> > xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
> > xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" >
> >    <head>
> >      <title>Checkbox testcase</title>
> >      <style>
> >        @namespace xforms url("http://www.w3.org/2002/xforms");
> >
> >        xforms|input {
> >          caption-side: right;
> >        }
> > /*
> >        xforms|input xforms|label {
> >          caption-side: right;
> >        }
> >        xforms|input::xf-value {
> >          caption-side: right;
> >        }
> > */
> >      </style>
> >      <xforms:model id="mymodel">
> >        <xforms:instance id="myinstance" xmlns="">
> >          <values>
> >            <select>0</select>
> >          </values>
> >        </xforms:instance>
> >        <xforms:bind id="booleanbind" nodeset="/values/select"
> >                     type="xsd:boolean" />
> >      </xforms:model>
> >    </head>
> >    <body>
> >      <h2>This testcase should show a checkbox with its label to its
> > right
> >      </h2>
> >
> >      <xforms:input bind="booleanbind">
> >        <xforms:label>This should be a checkbox: </xforms:label>
> >      </xforms:input>
> >    </body>
> > </html>
> >
> > --Aaron
> >
> > Klotz, Leigh wrote:
> >> I believe X-Smiles does this with caption-side CSS property.
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org] On
> >> Behalf Of Aaron Reed
> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 1:50 PM
> >> To: www-forms@w3.org
> >> Subject: checkbox labels
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I noticed that every xforms processor that I tried put the labels for
> >> boolean inputs (usually rendered as checkboxes) to the left of the
> >> checkbox even though the overwhelming preference for html forms is to
> >> have the label on the right of a checkbox.  Do any xforms processors
> >> allow their authors to position a boolean input's label to the right
> > of
> >> the control?  Perhaps using a CSS style?
> >>
> >> I guess the better question might be, does any processor allow the
> > form
> >> author to determine the label position (either left or right of the
> >> underlying control) of any xforms control?  And if so, how?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> --Aaron
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