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Re: Deploying (accessible) XForms today?

From: Charles F Wiecha <wiecha@us.ibm.com>
Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 14:49:42 -0400
To: Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com>
Cc: www-forms@w3.org, www-forms-request@w3.org
Message-ID: <OF9CB8C5BC.02B37EBF-ON85257165.00674217-85257165.00676E09@us.ibm.com>
Erik writes...

>>and Ajax is here to stay, which makes this is a very important topic.

Perhaps one angle to explore here is to work toward AJAX toolkits having 
more direct support for XForms.  Many of them are now introducing data 
models, model-view binding notations, and event systems.  If these were 
aligned more closely with XForms we'd have a much better story not only 
for accessibiliy but in general...

Charlie Wiecha

Erik Bruchez <ebruchez@orbeon.com> 
Sent by: www-forms-request@w3.org
05/05/2006 02:21 PM


Re: Deploying (accessible) XForms today?


I don't think that the fact that today's implementations do not meet 
accessibility requirements necessarily means they cannot. At least, I 
would like to see compelling arguments in that direction, and clearer 
technical details about exactly what is lost (and shouldn't be lost) by 
going from XForms to XHTML.

IE is not supporting XForms anytime soon, and Ajax is here to stay, 
which makes this is a very important topic.

I think ignorance of the requirements for accessibility is a more 
important reason why most Ajax-based web applications maybe lack in 
accessibility. We are unfortunately as guilty as anyone here.


T.V Raman wrote:
>>From what I've seen coming out of some of the server side
> processors, I'm afraid your're correct 
> Allan Beaufour writes:
>  > 
>  > Since not everybody is using a browser with XForms capabilities, if
>  > you want to deploy XForms today, server-side transformations might be
>  > needed. But how about accessibility? I fear that you loose that then?
>  > 
>  > /me steps aside and hopes for some good answers from the server-side 
crowd :)
>  > 
>  > --
>  > ... Allan

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