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RE: AJAX vs. Xforms

From: Mark Birbeck <mark.birbeck@x-port.net>
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:32:21 -0000
Message-ID: <DABE5B81-FCE4-4DBB-B2EF-2B3027ABFCCB@s15.mail.x-port.net>
To: "'Elliotte Harold'" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>
Cc: <www-forms@w3.org>


No offense mate, but the sooner you get working on the 4th edition the
better. You obviously have too much time on your hands at the moment. ;)

(In other words, I cannot believe that you are using a brain the size of a
planet to discuss plug-in deployment.)



Mark Birbeck
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-----Original Message-----
From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org] On Behalf
Of Elliotte Harold
Sent: 31 October 2005 20:09
To: Vincent Berger
Cc: www-forms@w3.org
Subject: Re: AJAX vs. Xforms

Vincent Berger wrote:

> People are not so stupid. They know how to install plugins.

Some do. Many don't. Few if any know how to do it right. My wife has two 
masters degrees and she can't install a plugin. My father's a lawyer and 
he can't. My two brothers probably can, but I wouldn't swear to it. My 
mother probably could but she's a math professor. I could if I really 
wanted to, but for whatever reason I still can't seem to keep them 
installed. Every once in a while I do get around to installing Flash or 
the PDF plugin, but a few months later it's gone again. Why? Frankly I 
can't be bothered to find out.

The world is not composed exclusively of programmers (Thank God!). Too 
may programmers have social skills too limited to enable them to see how 
the rest of the world thinks. What's obvious to them, ranges from 
difficult to impossible for most normal people. AJAX works because it's 
accessible to normal people. Anything that depends on a plugin isn't.

?Elliotte Rusty Harold  elharo@metalab.unc.edu
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