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Re: very new to xforms - recommendations

From: Victor Engmark <victor.engmark@cern.ch>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 15:05:20 +0200
To: "M. Sarumi" <m.sarumi@rogers.com>
Cc: www-forms@w3.org
Message-ID: <20051027130520.GC3673@imap.cern.ch>

M. Sarumi:
> I have the following requirements and thought xforms was a good fit.  We have a tight deadline though and no experience with it.
> I have tried a few processors - plugins and was going to go with Novell only to find out that after 90 days it is not longer free.
> I am looking for a processor that can be packaged with a form where there is no cost.  A person will go to a website and download a form and hopefully the process too.
> Due to security issues that have not been worked out, the process has to be downloaded to the clients PC - so no server side technology.
> Any recommendations on which process to use.  The file has to be saved to the users PC on say the C drive.  This also gave us problems but the code may not have been all correct.

Hello Mary, and welcome to the wonderful world of XForms! :)

I used Chiba for mostly the same reasons as you - Free and to be used
only on clients for offline work, loading and saving XML files directly.
No scripting was needed.

Some issues though:
- To be able to make an install package to be run offline, I had to
	bundle Apache Tomcat and Java SDK, which made the whole package over
	60 MB.
- Performance degraded fast when using instances above 20kB. At 60kB
	page loading times on a P4 2.4GHz are >10s. YMMV.
- I haven't tried any of the other Chiba interfaces, such as Chicoon or

You can download the whole thing at
CVSROOT=:ext:anonymous@isscvs.cern.ch:/local/reps/moi, see it on the web
at http://isscvs.cern.ch/cgi-bin/viewcvs-all.cgi/?cvsroot=moi, or check
out the screenshots at

Regarding formsPlayer, last I tried it every single input control had
their logo showing beside it (unless you pay for it), and it only works
on IE.

Regarding the Mozilla XForms, it's still very much in beta, and I was
unable to make any form controls inside repeats work
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=312848). Otherwise, it
looks very promising, being very fast and standard compliant


Victor Engmark
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