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RE: AJAX vs. Xforms

From: Flinton Adam <Adam.Flinton@cfh.nhs.uk>
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:28:05 -0000
Message-ID: <595299DD7F30014BBCE48B93DCB6065203312E2F@EXCHAQ2.nhsia.nhs.uk>
To: "Elliotte Harold" <elharo@metalab.unc.edu>, "Joern Turner" <joern.turner@web.de>
CC: "Vincent Berger" <vincent.berger@afp.com>, "Caroline Jarrett" <caroline.jarrett@effortmark.co.uk>, <www-forms@w3.org>

> For what it's worth, I don't include Chiba and Orbeon in this class. 
> Those I haven't used. I think those projects have problems 
> too, but they're of a different nature. I'm not convinced of 
> the feasibility, usability, or maintainability of a primarily 
> server-side solution; but that's an argument for another thread.

I created a completely client side set of forms for
opening/displaying/editing local XML files. I was able to get them to
open etc on IE with a plugin & firefox with it's plugin, however I was
defeated by the lack of tables within tables in a solid way (ff did this
but the tables were all over the place) & by the lack of an ability to
plugin specific handlers for specific blocks of XML held within a
multi-schema/compound documents (e.g. XHTML as a documentation type
within a large xml document).

Until these 2 areas are dealt with, what you have is a direct "access
forms" replacement with no "rich text wysiwyg" editing & no way to
display an XML tree in a std way (i.e. tables within tables) which is
less than people require (unless you think that people are willing to go
back to plain text &/or handcrafting xhtml markup).

However I did come away from the exercise appreciating the underlying
design of XForms & dearly hoping that these problems can be sorted
rapidly as they make so much sense & would aid me & others like me to
such a great extent vs the way I had to go eventually (local tomcat
instance running a Java/XSLT combination where the expressed to browser
xhtml includes some Javascript to give the element of in browser
functionality required).


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