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Re: calculator uses tables for layout, a highly inaccessible way of presenting an interface

From: Alan Chuter <achuter@teleservicios.es>
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 09:37:28 +0100
To: www-forms@w3.org
Message-ID: <opsnmcwqbsx03efm@0032k2d.e-fti.com>

I don't think this is an XForms problem, rather a page layout problem. And  
it's not necessarily inaccessible if it's done correctly, and certainly  
not "highly inaccessible". A question especially relevant to designing  
forms pages is why doesn't CSS support a grid layout. The controls and  
labels in forms are an example of where the arrangement of elements in  
columns and rows is necessary, but they don't consitute a data table. Or  
do they? I think there's an unresoved issue here. OTH it's not an XForms  
issue so it's off-topic for this list.

regards

Alan Chuter
Fundosa Teleservicios
achuter@teleservicios.es
Tel. +34 91 1210335

En Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:14:01 -0500, Mike Kienenberger  
<mkienenb@alaska.net> escribió:

>
> Ian Hickson <ian@hixie.ch> wrote:
>> (Take the recent XForms calculator as an example. It uses tables for
>> layout, a highly inaccessible way of presenting an interface.)
>
> I'm really new to XForms, and I have to admit that I'm back to stuffing
> everything in tables.
>
> I started out with raw XForms, but when I rendered it, it was pretty bad.
> (This is using FormsPlayer, but it didn't appear much different in any  
> other
> browser I tried).
>
> I'm a programmer, so I've spent about 5 minutes total on css, and that  
> from
> a book from 1998, but when I asked our html guy about it, he said that  
> css
> support wasn't predictable enough to do it other than with tables.
>
> Are there examples out there of the "proper" way to use CSS to do layout?
> And is it consistently available in browsers?
>
> -Mike
>
>
Received on Monday, 14 March 2005 08:38:19 GMT

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