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Re: Java Server Faces

From: Erik Bruchez <erik@bruchez.org>
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 16:43:47 -0700
Message-ID: <430128B3.3070104@bruchez.org>
To: Xforms W3C WG <www-forms@w3.org>
CC: Dharmesh Mistry <Dharmesh.Mistry@edgeipk.com>

One of the obvious answers is that in the same way JSF can generate HTML 
forms, JSF can (could) generate XForms. But this is kind of a poor man's 
integration between the two technologies.

The truth in my mind is that there is a lot of overlap between XForms 
and JSF: both have a data model (JavaBeans vs. XML documents), an event 
model (declarative vs. Java-based), an XML syntax, controls, etc. I 
think most people will go one way or another, and not try that much to 
integrate the two at this point. Maybe this will make more sense when 
(if) XForms becomes mainstream on the client.

Where I believe XForms shines is:

o Its declarative event model which is extremely powerful in spite of 
its relative simplicity. I believe that a huge task of evangelism of 
this aspect of XForms remains ahead: few people have understood the 
impact by XForms events.

o Its XML-based submission model, which is a perfect fit for more and 
more service-oriented apps (think within the enterprise, of course, but 
also the public Google, Amazon, Flicker, etc. APIs). The XForms 
submission model allows achieving the best separation between the 
user-facing interface and services underlying the UI.

o It is a "standard" and relies or suggests relying on other W3C 
standards (XML Events, XML Schema, XHTML, CSS, etc.), which means that 
it makes perfect sense within the web ecosystem.

o It is cross-platform and language-agnostic, unlike ASP .NET, JSF, etc. 
There is no need to learn Java to program in XForms!

-Erik

Dharmesh Mistry wrote:
> Dear all,
>  
> What are your thoughts on JSF, is this friend or foe? Has anyone written 
> a detailed article comparing XForms with JSF?
>  
> Any help would be useful.............kind regards Dharmesh
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