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RE: XForms plus XUL

From: Karandikar, Shailesh <Shailesh.Karandikar@dendrite.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:50:34 -0400
Message-ID: <3101F58237A7CF468D6F1DB16778EB6247A3BA@diexus1.us.drte.com>
To: "'www-forms@w3.org'" <www-forms@w3.org>
Cc: "'Gerald Bauer'" <luxorxul@yahoo.ca>

Hi Gerald,

The difference between XForms and XUL or for that matter, any markup
language used for user interfaces, is that XForms specifies a processing
model and an interaction between model, data and UI. I do not see XForms and
XUL as conflicting technologies since XForms spec. clearly says that any
host markup language could be used within the processing model described by
the spec.


Regards,
Shailesh


-----Original Message-----
From: Gerald Bauer [mailto:luxorxul@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:33 AM
To: www-forms@w3.org
Subject: XForms plus XUL



Hi Ben,

> > As far as I can tell XForms is a dead technology.
> > You  might wonna check out some alternatives such
> as
> > up and coming XUL engines/browsers/runtimes.
> 
> I beg to differ. :)
> 
> xul / asp.net / et al - are declarative programming
> languages. Xforms is
> functional. 

   I agree there are lots of great ideas in XForms.
However, as I see it the W3C stewardship is killing
the "official" XForms by refusing to clean-up the spec
and by refusing to help foster innovation by
pretenting they already have all the answers.

   XUL if I dare to say is a much better fit for
XForms than say XHTML or SVG because XUL already has a
rich widgetset.

> Xforms are easier to develop. Just drop an
> <xforms:input/> and go. ASP
> and XUL aren't as portable or easy to develop for.

  ASP for sure is a dead-end. However, XUL is the up
and coming next-gen XML browser markup and it's going
to be portable and easy to develop for vastly
surpassing XForms in its reach.
 
> Plus, there are some very nice xforms
> implementations in the wings.

  Well, XForms needs a host language and if I dare to
say XHTML doesn't cut it. Why not use XUL for your
host language?

  - Gerald


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