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Re: Welcome to the Real-World; The Future of XForms

From: Hemant Desai <Hemant.Desai@patni.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 19:05:32 +0530
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There was a discussion going on abt what the implementation should be and I am personally in favour of the Browser implementation..(Server side spewing's definitely something which I thing we have to evelove out of ...HTML has served its purpose long enough and its time to move on..

Hemant Desai

 
"Vic Cekvenich" <vc@basebeans.com> wrote in message news:b76eha$2u8$1@localhost.localdomain...
> 
> Sounds like practical things to do.
> 
> Would Mozilla group be able to change the game by having xhtml and xforms?
> 
> .V
> 
> Gerald Bauer wrote:
> >   Thanks for all the positive comments. 
> > 
> >   I think everyone agrees that having a standard that
> > lets you easily build forms in XML sporting "XML in,
> > XML out" is what everyone longs for (except, of
> > course, some industry giants such as Microsoft, Adobe,
> > IBM, and so on pushing their own ware).
> > 
> > 
> >>Um, IBM has just released an XForms prototype. And
> >>Oracle has one in the pipeline too, I understand. 
> > 
> > 
> >  Well, it's one thing to throw together a server-side
> > tag lib that spits out HTML, it's another to build a
> > rich browser with built-in XForms support challenging
> > Internet Explorer.
> > 
> >   Doesn't Microsoft's HTML "containment" strategy work
> > like a charm? Browser innovation practically halted
> > since Internet Explorer has taken over the market.
> > 
> > 
> >>Some specific examples would go a long way to 
> >>understanding what you consider good and bad in 
> >>XForms.
> > 
> > 
> >   As I said I don't claim to have all the answers and
> > I invite everybody to innovate and feel free to
> > clean-up the XForms spec and add whatever they need to
> > their own XForms 1.0 motors/engine/browsers.
> > 
> >   Again, once there are XForms motors/engines/browser
> > you can play with, you will get "real" thoughts from
> > "real" users and then the "real" XForms leaders can
> > get togther and hammer out an interop spec (aka XForms
> > 2.0 or whatever you wonna call it).
> > 
> >   As an example, just look a the forthcoming XForms
> > book from Micah Dubinko, the XForms spec lead online @
> > http://dubinko.info/writing/xforms/book.html . Don't
> > get me wrong I applaud his efforts. However, more two
> > hundreds pages and with barely a single "real-world"
> > example speaks for itself.
> > 
> >   For more details about my mini-XForms critique
> > including examples, check out slide #16 from my "Rich
> > Clients, Rich Browsers, Rich Portals" talk online @
> > http://vamphq.com/talk/vanx-mar-2003/slides.html#rich-16
> > 
> >  More details about my XForms clean-up will be
> > forthcoming as Luxor progesses, after all, Luxor is a
> > free, open-source projects residing online @
> > http://luxor-xul.sourceforge.net 
> > 
> >   - Gerald 
> > 
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> > 
> 
> 
Received on Friday, 11 April 2003 09:27:07 GMT

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