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Re: [XFORM][CALL FOR] XForms Tutorial/Introduction

From: John J. Barton <John_Barton@hpl.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:53:17 -0800
Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010330095234.01c1f198@hplex1.hpl.hp.com>
To: "johnmessing" <jmessing@law-on-line.com>, <www-forms@w3.org>
If you are satisfied with the existing systems then
certainly go ahead and use them.

John.

At 06:48 AM 3/30/2001 -0700, johnmessing wrote:
>I have a slightly different concern. There are many good useful, and
>understood ways to integrate forms and XML using ASP or Cold Fusion running
>on a Microsoft platform, Acrobat, and now with page controls in .NET that I
>wonder if this particular specification is somewhat outside the
>indispensible family of W3C XML standards efforts.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Baden Wehmeyer" <BadenW@tranXactive.com>
>To: "Olivier BROUSSEAU" <olivier.brousseau@sema.fr>; "Michael Kraus"
><michael.kraus@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>; <www-forms@w3.org>
>Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:23 AM
>Subject: RE: [XFORM][CALL FOR] XForms Tutorial/Introduction
>
>
> > Hi, the level activity on XForum public discussion is very low and it
> > seems if one is not directly participative in the workgroup itself, we
> > have little hope of getting help from the group. I have the problem of
> > being "isolated" in South Africa, so I am probably not the best "expert"
> > at hand to fullfil the needs of hungry researchers all round. I can in
> > my little understanding put something together to help the cause as I
> > have preliminary promised to several other participants. And I hope to
> > find the strenght and time to do just that soon.  I can only explain it
> > in the hand that the core idea of XForms is not be become a boxed
> > specification such as HTML, WML and VoiceXML, but rather to be loosly
> > coupled around self describing XML schemas. The XForms may therefor be
> > embedded withing the previously mentioned target ML's and it itself
> > targets a more intelligent User Interface Middleware that either
> > presents XForms directly on the platform such as mobile device or
> > desktop machine or telephony gateway by "painting" the form on LCD, GDI,
> > or Speech Channel "canvases". Or, it may transform the XForms into a
> > boxed Markup Language as mentioned before. What would help me drive any
> > tutorials is an understanding of what our individual research projects
> > are all about. Maybe if you could spare us a few hints on your specific
> > interests to help the cause of understanding global trends for adopting
> > XForms.  I am a little worried that XForms will not be understood for
> > what it is because of the little discussion going on here.
> >
> > Over to you Oliver, Michael, and any other mimes.
> >
> > hthal,
> > Baden
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Olivier BROUSSEAU [mailto:olivier.brousseau@sema.fr]
> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:38 AM
> > To: Baden Wehmeyer; Michael Kraus; www-forms@w3.org
> > Subject: [XFORM][CALL FOR] XForms Tutorial/Introduction
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm also very interested in XForms. I performed investigations about it
> > few
> > months ago, and rapidely concluded that it was not ready for Production
> > development, but just in a 'Research Project' state. Maybe, I was & I am
> > wrong. (' would hope so).
> > To spread this techno, it's very important to provide examples &
> > tutorials
> > so that people could achieve prototyping activities and provide feedback
> > on
> > this expierience.
> >
> > Tutorial, you introduce, is a bit "light". It mainly explains XForm
> > general
> > concept, and approach.
> >
> > I would like to find a full XForm page example (or tutorial). It should
> > highlight:
> >   x a data model of form (XML data structure)
> >   x a display definition of data model (HTML or sthing else)
> >   x a mapping between display and data model
> > It may also draw a kind of communication graph between client and
> > server,
> > explaining call input/output.
> >
> > Do you both have found something like this? Or do anyone else has?
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > rgds,
> > olivier brousseau.
> >
> >  --
> > O. Brousseau
> > Sema R&D Telecom
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org]On
> > Behalf Of Baden Wehmeyer
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:33 PM
> > To: Michael Kraus; www-forms@w3.org
> > Subject: RE: XForms Tutorial/Introduction
> >
> >
> > Try this:
> > http://www.w3schools.com/xforms/default.asp
> >
> > hth,
> > Baden
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Kraus [mailto:michael.kraus@informatik.uni-muenchen.de]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:32 PM
> > To: www-forms@w3.org
> > Subject: XForms Tutorial/Introduction
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm new to XForms and before I work through the whole specification, I'd
> > like to read a short turorial/introduction to XForms, but I couldn't
> > find anything on the web. Does anyone know something like that?
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >

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