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Re: [XFORM][CALL FOR] XForms Tutorial/Introduction

From: johnmessing <johnmessing@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 06:48:40 -0700
Message-ID: <001901c0b920$219f6480$f4b91d26@lawonline>
To: <www-forms@w3.org>
I have a slightly different concern. There are many good useful, and
understood ways to integrate forms and XML using ASP or Cold Fusion running
on a Microsoft platform, Acrobat, and now with page controls in .NET that I
wonder if this particular specification is somewhat outside the
indispensible family of W3C XML standards efforts.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Baden Wehmeyer" <BadenW@tranXactive.com>
To: "Olivier BROUSSEAU" <olivier.brousseau@sema.fr>; "Michael Kraus"
<michael.kraus@informatik.uni-muenchen.de>; <www-forms@w3.org>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 6:23 AM
Subject: RE: [XFORM][CALL FOR] XForms Tutorial/Introduction

> Hi, the level activity on XForum public discussion is very low and it
> seems if one is not directly participative in the workgroup itself, we
> have little hope of getting help from the group. I have the problem of
> being "isolated" in South Africa, so I am probably not the best "expert"
> at hand to fullfil the needs of hungry researchers all round. I can in
> my little understanding put something together to help the cause as I
> have preliminary promised to several other participants. And I hope to
> find the strenght and time to do just that soon.  I can only explain it
> in the hand that the core idea of XForms is not be become a boxed
> specification such as HTML, WML and VoiceXML, but rather to be loosly
> coupled around self describing XML schemas. The XForms may therefor be
> embedded withing the previously mentioned target ML's and it itself
> targets a more intelligent User Interface Middleware that either
> presents XForms directly on the platform such as mobile device or
> desktop machine or telephony gateway by "painting" the form on LCD, GDI,
> or Speech Channel "canvases". Or, it may transform the XForms into a
> boxed Markup Language as mentioned before. What would help me drive any
> tutorials is an understanding of what our individual research projects
> are all about. Maybe if you could spare us a few hints on your specific
> interests to help the cause of understanding global trends for adopting
> XForms.  I am a little worried that XForms will not be understood for
> what it is because of the little discussion going on here.
> Over to you Oliver, Michael, and any other mimes.
> hthal,
> Baden
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Olivier BROUSSEAU [mailto:olivier.brousseau@sema.fr]
> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 11:38 AM
> To: Baden Wehmeyer; Michael Kraus; www-forms@w3.org
> Subject: [XFORM][CALL FOR] XForms Tutorial/Introduction
> Hi,
> I'm also very interested in XForms. I performed investigations about it
> few
> months ago, and rapidely concluded that it was not ready for Production
> development, but just in a 'Research Project' state. Maybe, I was & I am
> wrong. (' would hope so).
> To spread this techno, it's very important to provide examples &
> tutorials
> so that people could achieve prototyping activities and provide feedback
> on
> this expierience.
> Tutorial, you introduce, is a bit "light". It mainly explains XForm
> general
> concept, and approach.
> I would like to find a full XForm page example (or tutorial). It should
> highlight:
>   x a data model of form (XML data structure)
>   x a display definition of data model (HTML or sthing else)
>   x a mapping between display and data model
> It may also draw a kind of communication graph between client and
> server,
> explaining call input/output.
> Do you both have found something like this? Or do anyone else has?
> Thanks in advance,
> rgds,
> olivier brousseau.
>  --
> O. Brousseau
> Sema R&D Telecom
> -----Original Message-----
> From: www-forms-request@w3.org [mailto:www-forms-request@w3.org]On
> Behalf Of Baden Wehmeyer
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:33 PM
> To: Michael Kraus; www-forms@w3.org
> Subject: RE: XForms Tutorial/Introduction
> Try this:
> http://www.w3schools.com/xforms/default.asp
> hth,
> Baden
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Kraus [mailto:michael.kraus@informatik.uni-muenchen.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 1:32 PM
> To: www-forms@w3.org
> Subject: XForms Tutorial/Introduction
> Hello,
> I'm new to XForms and before I work through the whole specification, I'd
> like to read a short turorial/introduction to XForms, but I couldn't
> find anything on the web. Does anyone know something like that?
> Michael
Received on Friday, 30 March 2001 08:46:02 UTC

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