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RE: XForms Model - XML Schema vs. Simple Syntax - relative importance

From: John J. Barton <John_Barton@hpl.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:40:50 -0800
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To: <eamon.otuathail@clipcode.com>, <www-forms@w3.org>

>To be honest, no. Do you know of any that state that "users do like
>text-only UIs"?

No. I will try to find the answer to these questions about such
studies by asking the experts at CHI2001 coming in April.

>Just go and talk to real users whose have PDA and WAP devices. The PDA guys
>will enthusiastically describe the benefits of their Palms/iPaqs/Journadas
>etc., but the WAP users are generally unhappy (they will tell you they
>appreciate SMS text messaging). What users want is something that has all
>the features of the advanced PDAs in the form factor of a phone - Yes, I
>know that's difficult, but it is not impossible (e.g. see the Ericsson
>R380). XForms should be able to run really well on such devices.

Indeed we agree on that point.  I am sensitive to the WAP arena
however because my particular interest is devices with tiny but
high resolution screens, eg cameras.  These devices will not come
with larger screens, period.  But they have lots of pixels.  If iconography
is the only solution, then we have another serious barrier to entry.

> >> In my opinion the human readablity of HTML is
> >> the reason we use Webs rather than Orbs.
>Agreed - but I would consider XML Schema to be human readable!
>Further, I would reckon within 12 months most advanced/intermediate web
>developers will be fluent in reading "raw" XML Schema and XML Protocol, just
>as today they understand "raw" XHTML and HTTP

I would very much appreciate an XML Schema example that replicates the
XFORMs simple example in http://www.w3.org/TR/xforms-datamodel so that we
can discuss these issues in terms of a concrete example.


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