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Re: XForms WD 20011207: instance content

From: T. V. Raman <tvraman@almaden.ibm.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 09:59:51 -0800
Message-ID: <15394.10007.703825.264670@bubbles.almaden.ibm.com>
To: Jim Wissner <jim@jbrix.org>
Cc: tvraman@almaden.ibm.com, www-forms@w3.org
personal opinion --you sound worse than a broken record --

things like XForms can stabilize and be interoperable only
after people have had a chance to experiment with it in the
real world to explore all the possibilities. 

Standardizing too many things too early can be just as bad
as not standardizing at all.

    Jim> Well here are some screenshots from the last
    Jim> version.  Note when looking at the code that it is
    Jim> not xforms compliant.  The new version will be much
    Jim> more compliant markup-wise, although as per my many
    Jim> previous posts to this list, I don't know what the
    Jim> heck that means.  Given Micah's most recent post
    Jim> which in not-so-many-words stated that xforms 1.0
    Jim> won't be what a custom app would need, I'm not
    Jim> falling over backwards implementing it.  (Not
    Jim> because I don't like the idea of the spec, but
    Jim> because there is no rationale for it if there is no
    Jim> reuse to be had.  As 1.0 stands, Xybrix could only
    Jim> ever be compatible with Xybrix).  Anyway I'm
    Jim> sounding like a broken record!

    Jim> http://jbrix.org/kits/xybrix/screenshots/formdesign-1/screen-3.html

    Jim> http://jbrix.org/kits/xybrix/screenshots/formdesign-1/editor/xforms-document.html

    Jim> Here's neat one of my app editor being created
    Jim> inside my app editor!  :)

    Jim> http://jbrix.org/kits/xybrix/screenshots/appconstructor-1/screen-2.html

    Jim> By the way this is a functional, swing-based
    Jim> XML-markup-based, XML-editing application
    Jim> framework.

    Jim> Jim


    Jim> At 06:31 PM 12/18/2001 -0800, T. V. Raman wrote:
    >> Actually, I'd love to see your XForm editting a XForm
    >> example --could you mail it to the list so it makes
    >> it to the archives as well?  Thanks, --Raman
    >> 
    >> --
    >> Best Regards, --raman
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    Jim> -- jim@jbrix.org

    Jim> Visit www.jbrix.org for: + SpeedJAVA jEdit Code
    Jim> Completion Plugin + Xybrix XML Application
    Jim> Framework + other great Open Source Software

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Best Regards,
--raman
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