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Re: follow up on the discussion in HTML5 about metadata access

From: Danny Ayers <danny.ayers@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 00:53:35 +0200
Message-ID: <BANLkTim6BUM=EOecK7MJaTzt+ZTiMcQbuA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com>
Cc: Karl Dubost <karld@opera.com>, www-archive <www-archive@w3.org>
The browser-oriented objective of HTML5 is fundamentally not
Web-oriented, it's playing to an environment of UAs that each have
their own demands, and many of those are not uniform. But right now a
handful of browsers, specific types of physical interfaces (desktop,
laptop, more mobile & iSomething) plugins and so on are in ascendency,
so I don't see that we have much choice to let them be, in fact
encourage them to make the best of the space available.

But the Web thing, the global communication thingy, that's about
giving things names that URLs, i.e. dereferenceable URIs, and making
it easy to embed other suchlike names inside...making them links. The
Web is links, no?

On 11 May 2011 00:14, Silvia Pfeiffer <silviapfeiffer1@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/05/2011, at 8:05 AM, Karl Dubost <karld@opera.com> wrote:
>> Sylvia,
>> -everything
>> +cc: www-archive
>> Thread origin: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011May/thread.html#msg135
>> Le 10 mai 2011 à 17:32, Silvia Pfeiffer a écrit :
>>> Only in the way that PDF, smil, flash, or any other non-HTML content can be called "web content".
>> Mixing contents which are completely unrelated.
>>> IMO they are not a native part of the web, but an adjunct and require extra plugins to work in the Web browser.
>> Then I'm curious to know what are your requirements for the Web. Mine are simple and are three grades.
>> * It has a URI
>> * it has a URI and served through HTTP
>> * It has a URI, served through HTTP and has hypertext capabilities.
>> For example SVG is above PNG as a Web citizen because of its hypertext capabilities.
>>> That you can serve any content from a Web server doesn't make it part of the Web, only part of the Internet.
>> No. :) To be part of the Web it needs a URI and be served through HTTP.
>> Internet is a total different story. Interesting to see where you are coming from.
> If all browsers decided to implement support for ePub, I would agree with you. Not worth wasting everyone's time with any longer. Do answer Maciej's question of use case for exposing media metadata instead, which is how this started.
> Regards,
> Silvia.

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