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Re: ISSUE-41: Decentralized-extensibility - Straw Poll for Objections

From: Edward O'Connor <hober0@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:08:02 -0700
Message-ID: <AANLkTikE48N2AScWC=7JHRaTRoDho0hhmtyFh2Bz8LhD@mail.gmail.com>
To: Leif Halvard Silli <xn--mlform-iua@xn--mlform-iua.no>
Cc: www-archive@w3.org
Hi Leif,

> Reading the socalled "zero-edit" proposal ("heavy-edit" would have
> been more accurate names)[…]

The CP proposes that we make no changes to the draft to address
ISSUE-41. Sounds like a zero-edit CP to me.

>>> The change proposals have existed for months. The zero-edit
>>> proposal has existed for 4 days. [4] Had it been presented to the
>>> group in due course, then probably much of this would have been
>>> solved in time.
>>
>> The length of time is irrelevant.
>
> Not to me as a Change Proposal author. It is highly relevant to know
> what the other proposals are about and so.

Work on the zero-edit CP was done entirely in public, on the WG wiki. As
you can see here, substantive edits started on 11 September:

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/index.php?title=User:Eoconnor/ISSUE-41&action=history

The WG wiki has an Atom feed of recent changes, which you can subscribe
to in your feed reader of choice:

http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&feed=atom

> What would get us there, is that the co-chairs proactively coach the
> change proposals.

Instead, I think it behooves change proposal authors to seek feedback
from others—the chairs and/or other interested parties—early and often,
which I did in this case. Feedback from at least a half dozen people
substantially affected the CP in numerous ways.

> I prefer having an available, but heavily edited, CP available for
> some time, to not have any CP at all[.]

As described above, every edit of this CP has been available for review
from its inception.

> (and much thanks to its authors for honestly using exactly the
> language that that the editor has used in the spec!)

You're welcome.


Ted
Received on Friday, 24 September 2010 18:08:55 GMT

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