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Re: vCard RDF merge....

From: Martin Hepp (UniBW) <martin.hepp@ebusiness-unibw.org>
Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 11:04:20 +0200
Message-ID: <4A7A9C94.4040505@ebusiness-unibw.org>
To: Renato Iannella <renato@nicta.com.au>
CC: Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>, Toby Inkster <tai@g5n.co.uk>, Peter Mika <pmika@yahoo-inc.com>, Dan Brickley <danbri@danbri.org>, Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>, Brian Suda <brian.suda@gmail.com>, www-archive@w3.org
Dear all:

I begin to worry - we really need to have a consolidated vcard2006 
recommendation quickly. It does not matter whether it is imperfect or 
incomplete, but it is needed. Basically, the subset of patterns 
suggested by Yahoo would work fine for me (including their suggestion to 
use plain strings instead of URIs for phone numbers / tel:).

In my group alone, there are a handful of tools that are necessarily 
hard-wired to the vcard modeling patterns, and we need to finalize them. 
Even worse, people are already using those tools for creating meta-data 
for their businesses, and we will really kill the growing momentum if we 
ask them to update the data structures on a weekly basis.

So if it is actually more complicated than assessed in Crete to produce 
a consolidated 2006 spec, then let's rather create two activities - a 
quick fix, i.e. a compatible subset based on the Yahoo patterns, and a 
comprehensive update of the spec, which should try to be 
backwards-compatible with the subset. For the latter, we would have an 
arbitrary amount of time ;-)

In a nutshell, I really think we should do what we can do in two weeks 
from now or sooner. It puts a break on the whole Web of Linked Data 
movement if we are unable to give people a step-by-step recipe on how to 
publish their contact details as meta-data.

Uncertainty is the key evil to the adoption of standards and novel 



Renato Iannella wrote:
> Thanks for the discussion everyone....
> Firstly, the 2001 Note and 2006 Ontology were focussed on vCard 3.0....
> Since vCard 4.0 is close to final...not that many changes to 
> go...should we simply say....leave the NOTE/Ontology as they are and 
> lets do the RDF for vCard 4.0 ?
> Comments?
> Cheers...  Renato Iannella

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