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Re: GRDDL Going to Last Call

From: Harry Halpin <hhalpin@ibiblio.org>
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 17:09:49 -0500 (EST)
To: Ben Adida <ben@adida.net>
Cc: tbaker@tbaker.de, schreiber@cs.vu.nl, www-archive@w3.org
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0702051706020.9246@tribal.metalab.unc.edu>

No, you do not need a complete solution but you need a solid proposal, or 
you  need to find someone else to help you with the proposal. Again, I 
*like* the general idea I'm just rather busy myself right now and haven't 
thought it through.

If you can get (or others in SWD) can get a solid proposal through by 
before our schedule says we should go to CR, I will look at it seriously 
and make sure DanC adds it to the issue list. Perhaps you could ask 
Fabien.

I do not think that this is too much to ask, and if you are overburdened 
someone else from SWD WG could take this on. Again, we have done 
everything requested in order to remain compatible with RDFa, but people 
interested in RDFa also have to help out.

On Mon, 5 Feb 2007, Ben Adida wrote:

>
> Harry,
>
> Okay, it sounds as if the only way my comment will be taken into account
> is if I come up with a complete solution that everyone agrees with.
> Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do this, especially as we try to
> focus on completing the RDFa work ASAP.
>
> If I haven't convinced you and the rest of the WG that there's value in
> typing the GRDDL transformations, then that's fine: I know you're under
> time pressure to release, and I don't want to slow things down. Time
> will tell if my apprehensions about this lack of typing are right or
> not. When we fully build hGRDDL-like features into RDFa for microformat
> support, we'll see if we can work within the GRDDL specs or if we have
> to come up with an alternative mechanism.
>
> -Ben
>
> Harry Halpin wrote:
>> You've had the typing idea for a while, but you need a
>>
>> 1) concrete mechanism that the WG agrees on - and at least one needs to
>> be suggested asap.
>> 2) a use-case and text to be added to use-case document
>> 3) text changes to the spec
>>
>> I'm not pressing for it since I don't see what typing buys you besides
>> less processing done on the client side, and currently client-side
>> processing power is pretty cheap. However, I do think it's a generally
>> elegant idea if 1) can be done and found.
>>
>> Re the javascript case,  there is no reason why an agent has to run
>> every transform if it can't process it. A RDFa/hGRDDL javascript agent
>> would run only those transforms it can, so for XHTML->RDFa hGRDDL, it
>> would run only those. We do not require the agent to run all transforms,
>> just run those it is equipped to, and we strongly recommend it run at
>> least XSLT 1.0, which I guess your hGRDDL/RDFa agent wouldn't do.
>>
>
>

-- 
 				--harry

 	Harry Halpin
 	Informatics, University of Edinburgh
         http://www.ibiblio.org/hhalpin
Received on Monday, 5 February 2007 22:09:59 GMT

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