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From: Greg Elin <greg@fotonotes.net>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:03:01 -0500
Cc: semantic-photolist@unitboy.com
To: Masahide Kanzaki <post@kanzaki.com>
Message-Id: <37E2E28C-4D05-11D8-9EB9-000393B64216@fotonotes.net>

I haven't posted to the list much this week, but I have been joining in 
Tuesday and Wednesday's IRC chat.

My sense is things are going well. Decisions are getting made, and we 
have the servers, ontology, and sample RDF in place in order to put 
online the first version of the repository. I think that can happen 
today and tomorrow.

Let's catch up with ourselves. Let's use today/tomorrow to organize 
what we have on the servers and update wiki pages.  Things are moving 
so rapidly, in fact, I don't think the documentation has caught up with 
the decisions! I'll do some updating of documents and facilitating.  I 
propose everyone hold off any "new" ideas to this and table any 
outstanding issues until next week.  We are spread out around the 
world. Let's pull what we've together...and give everyone a chance to 
wake up and get caught up with this overly productive group.

If some decision was made, but seems to have gotten dropped out, please 
note it to yourself (or send a message off list) and then next week 
will look at what is online and what the outstanding and missed, etc.

Thanks!

Greg Elin


P.S. Over the past couple of days Jim Ley, Morten, Libby, and Masahide 
have really narrowed down issues related to the RDF for describing an 
annotated area of the image.  Correct me if I am incorrect, but I think 
enough work has been done that what needs to happen next is a 
cross-referencing and checking specific details?  I know that Jim and 
Morten wanted to see how their stuff would synch up with Jen Golbeck's. 
  I've been working at fixing Fotonotes to work with these ideas.









On Wednesday, January 21, 2004, at 08:54  PM, Masahide Kanzaki wrote:

> Hi Mortern, all
>
> At 11:04 PM +0100 04.1.21, Morten Frederiksen wrote:
>> Heh, I don't know if that was a typo - namespage - but that's a very 
>> nice
>> word, completely closes the isue with what's supposed to be at the 
>> end of a
>> namespace. ;)
>
> Ouch, it was a typo ;-) I agree with you for the need of a 'page' 
> though.
>
>> Great, I think perhaps we could develop a set of standard functions in
>> various languages that did the bounding box computations, to make 
>> sure nobody
>> is left out of the loop because of lack of tool support.
>
> Yes, good idea.
>
>> Also, I see in the logs that it is being suggested that regions 
>> should be
>> identified by URI. I'm not sure I agree on that, since as Libby 
>> pointed out,
>> regions are not directly displayable, and it paves the way for 
>> somewhat
>> easier "desctruction" of regions by mistake.
>
> Fragment id's for region seems tricky, because there are almost 
> infinite
> combinations of coordinates in an image. I think it's reasonable to 
> have
> rdf:ID's in annotation's region constructs. I mean, not:
>
>  <Region rdf:about="image-uri#fragID">
>
> but:
>
>  <Region rdf:ID="idInAnnotation">
>
> is much more manageable. People can mention to the region via this
> annotation like:
>
>  <rdf:Description rdf:about="annotationUri#idInAnnotation>
>   <dc:description>more comments ...</dc:comments>
>   ...
>
> This will ensure people talking about the same topic (annotation).
>
>> However, that would make it possible for a friendly service to add
>> boundingBox properties to regions that didn't have them already...
>
> You mean a third party can add boudingBox to the annotation without it 
> ?
> Maybe that's an idea. And I think idInAnnotation can help this. Make 
> sense ?
>
> cheers,
>
> (I think I got around mail address, and hope this message will be 
> archived)
>
>
> -- 
> KANZAKI, Masahide a.k.a. masaka
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