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Re: SOAP 1.2 PR Documents

From: <noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 16:33:52 -0400
To: Marc.Hadley@Sun.COM
Cc: "Carine Bournez (E-mail)" <carine@w3.org>, fallside@us.ibm.com, Nilo Mitra <EUSNILM@am1.ericsson.se>, Henrik Frystyk Nielsen <henrikn@microsoft.com>, Jean-Jacques Moreau <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>, Marc.Hadley@Sun.COM, Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>, W3C Public Archive <www-archive@w3.org>, Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org>
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Both as an editor and as one of the people who has had a dual affiliation, 
I'm OK with whatever our chair suggests is appropriate. 
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Marc Hadley <Marc.Hadley@Sun.COM>
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04/14/2003 03:48 PM

 
        To:     Martin Gudgin <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
        cc:     Yves Lafon <ylafon@w3.org>, Noah Mendelsohn/Cambridge/IBM@Lotus, "Carine 
Bournez (E-mail)" <carine@w3.org>, David Fallside/Santa Teresa/IBM@IBMUS, 
Nilo Mitra <EUSNILM@am1.ericsson.se>, Henrik Frystyk Nielsen 
<henrikn@microsoft.com>, Jean-Jacques Moreau 
<jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>, W3C Public Archive 
<www-archive@w3.org>
        Subject:        Re: SOAP 1.2 PR Documents


On Monday, Apr 14, 2003, at 15:25 US/Eastern, Martin Gudgin wrote:
>
> Mark Baker (Idokorro Mobile (PlanetFred), formerly of Sun Microsystems)
> Don Box (Microsoft Corporation, formerly of DevelopMentor)
>
> Does that style work for everyone?
>
Works for me.

> This does also beg the question of what we should do with people like 
> Noah and I who appear in both prevwgmb.txt and wgmb.txt
>
I'd vote for removal from prevwgmb and adoption of the style above in 
wgmb.

Marc.

> Gudge
>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Yves Lafon [mailto:ylafon@w3.org]
>> Sent: 14 April 2003 15:26
>> To: Martin Gudgin
>> Cc: Noah Mendelsohn; Carine Bournez (E-mail); David Fallside;
>> Nilo Mitra; Henrik Frystyk Nielsen; Jean-Jacques Moreau; Marc
>> Hadley; W3C Public Archive
>>
>> On Sat, 12 Apr 2003, Martin Gudgin wrote:
>>
>>> I fixed the typo.
>>
>> Btw, I updated the participant list in the WG page (Jeff
>> Schlimmer was missing). Also, Don Box is listed as alumni for
>> DevelopMentor, should we add another entry for alumni from
>> MS? keep as-is? move to MS?
>> I see that Mark Baker is listed twice on the page and
>> remember that someone complained about that.
>>
>>>
>>> Gudge
>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Noah Mendelsohn [mailto:noah_mendelsohn@us.ibm.com]
>>>> Sent: 11 April 2003 20:51
>>>> To: Martin Gudgin
>>>> Cc: Carine Bournez (E-mail); David Fallside; Nilo Mitra; Henrik
>>>> Frystyk Nielsen; Jean-Jacques Moreau; Marc Hadley; W3C Public
>>>> Archive; ylafon@w3.org
>>>>
>>>> I took a look at the comments changes.  Basically OK, but
>> there is
>>>> at least one spelling error:
>>>>
>>>> <current>
>>>> Comment information items MAY appear as children and/or
>> descendants
>>>> of the [document element] element information item but
>> not before or
>>>> after that element informaton item .
>>>> There are some restrictions in the processing model with
>> respect to
>>>> when comment information items can be added and/or removed (see
>>>> 2.7.2.1 Relayed Infoset).
>>>> </current>
>>>> <minimalChangetoFixSpelling>
>>>> Comment information items MAY appear as children and/or
>> descendants
>>>> of the [document element] element information item but
>> not before or
>>>> after that element >information< item . There are some
>> restrictions
>>>> in the processing model with respect to when comment information
>>>> items can be added and/or removed (see 2.7.2.1 Relayed Infoset).
>>>> </minimalChangetoFixSpelling>
>>>>
>>>> <possibleAdditionalChangetoMakeClearer?>
>>>>> Although not explicitly called out in the sections
>> below,< comment
>>>> information items MAY appear >in the Envelope infoset< as
>> children
>>>> and/or descendants of the [document element] element information
>>>> item, but not before or after that element
>>>>> information< item. There are some restrictions in the
>>>> processing model with respect to when comment information
>> items can
>>>> be added and/or removed (see 2.7.2.1 Relayed Infoset).
>>>> </possibleAdditionalChangetoMakeClearer?>
>>>>
>>>> Reasons for proposed additional changes:  (1) makes clear
>> that lack
>>>> of discussion below is intentional (2) make clear that we do
>>>> consider these part of the Envelope infoset and thus subject to
>>>> transmission.   I think
>>>> that's the only coherent interpretation anyway, but
>> someone might be
>>>> tempted to look at the sort of oblique introduction of
>> comments at
>>>> the top of the chapter and say:  "well, if they really mattered,
>>>> they would have been called out properly."  My proposal
>> to make it
>>>> an explicit note failed, so I'm wondering if this helps a bit.
>>>>
>>>> Honestly, I'm not pushing either of these changes hard.
>> If all we
>>>> want to do is fix the spelling, or to adopt just the first of the
>>>> additional changes, I'm fine with that.  Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Noah Mendelsohn                              Voice: 1-617-693-4036
>>>> IBM Corporation                                Fax: 1-617-693-8676
>>>> One Rogers Street
>>>> Cambridge, MA 02142
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Martin Gudgin" <mgudgin@microsoft.com>
>>>> 04/11/2003 09:35 AM
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         To:     "Jean-Jacques Moreau"
>>>> <jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr>
>>>>         cc:     "Henrik Frystyk Nielsen"
>>>> <henrikn@microsoft.com>, "Marc Hadley"
>>>> <marc.hadley@sun.com>, "Nilo Mitra"
>>>> <EUSNILM@am1.ericsson.se>, Noah
>>>> Mendelsohn/Cambridge/IBM@Lotus, "W3C Public Archive"
>>>> <www-archive@w3.org>, <ylafon@w3.org>, David Fallside/Santa
>>>> Teresa/IBM@IBMUS, "Carine Bournez \(E-mail\)" <carine@w3.org>
>>>>         Subject:        RE: SOAP 1.2 PR Documents
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I added a paragraph to the start of Section 5[1] and removed
>>>> the entry from Section 1[2]
>>>>
>>>> Gudge
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/3/04/11/soap12-part1.html#soapenv
>>>> [2]
>>>> http://www.w3.org/2000/xp/Group/3/04/11/soap12-part1.html#notation
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jean-Jacques Moreau
>>>>> [mailto:jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr]
>>>>> Sent: 11 April 2003 14:26
>>>>> To: Martin Gudgin
>>>>> Cc: Jean-Jacques Moreau; Henrik Frystyk Nielsen; Marc
>> Hadley; Nilo
>>>>> Mitra; Noah Mendelson; W3C Public Archive; ylafon@w3.org; David
>>>>> Fallside; Carine Bournez (E-mail)
>>>>>
>>>>> The AI list also mentions issue 355:
>>>>>> 2003/04/09: Editors
>>>>>>     Incorporate 'proper' of Issue 355 (not fully implemented
>>>>>> previously)
>>>>>
>>>>> So did you do both of 421 and 422?
>>>>>
>>>>> JJ.
>>>>>
>>>>> Martin Gudgin wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the only issue resolutions were 421 and 422 (
>>>>> Comments and the
>>>>>> redundant namespace entry in the table in Part 1 ).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorting out the TOC now, Yves is on holiday
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gudge
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Jean-Jacques Moreau
>>>> [mailto:jean-jacques.moreau@crf.canon.fr]
>>>>>>> Sent: 11 April 2003 14:22
>>>>>>> To: Martin Gudgin
>>>>>>> Cc: Henrik Frystyk Nielsen; Marc Hadley; Nilo Mitra; Noah
>>>>> Mendelson;
>>>>>>> W3C Public Archive; ylafon@w3.org; David Fallside; Carine
>>>>>>> Bournez
>>>>>>> (E-mail)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah... I was planning on spending some time this afternoon
>>>>> incoporating
>>>>>>> issue resolutions. Did you also do any of that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apart from this (and cleaning up the TOC! -but Yves is good
>>>>> at doing
>>>>>>> this!-), I don't see anything else that needs doing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for creating the snapshots,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JJ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS. I'll on IRC shortly to speed up communication.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Martin Gudgin wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As you may have seen from mail from me on the WG
>> list, the spec
>>>>>>>> documents have been updated for PR. I've made the agreed
>>>> changes,
>>>>>>>> removed diff markup and removed change logs. I've generated
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> snap shots
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at each stage of the process.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think all that needs doing now is the following:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1.          Update namespace URIs
>>>>>>>> 2.          Update status/boilerplate for PR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know of anything else that needs doing?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm happy to do #1 for all three parts + schemas docs, I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just need to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> know what URIs we're going to use.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm hoping Yves/Carine can do #2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gudge
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Yves Lafon - W3C
>> "Baroula que barouleras, au tiéu toujou t'entourneras."
>>
>>
>>
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Marc Hadley <marc.hadley@sun.com>
Web Technologies and Standards, Sun Microsystems.
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