Re: Current Support - minimal AMAYA maintenance ?

I appreciate very much Amaya and I use it every day.

- *The best HTML editor*:
Better than Blue Griffon where I had several problems.
I use AMAYA for both web pages edition and for nearly all my local documents.
For me the rough basic standard HTML is the best solution. 
It spare enormous much time rather than to have to type HTML tags, but it is still possible 
to do a few things in source code, when sometimes necessary.
Currently the functionalities cover most of my needs, but in the future  soon or later an 
evolution to full HTML5 will be desirable.

- *Easy handling of logical structures*:
I have many levels of lists of lists and it is very easy to move an element with all his 
depending sub-lists.  Simply by means of a "F2", cut and paste.
Up to now  for documentations I am not interested in advanced presentations gadgets.  I 
feel Libre Office unnecessary complicated and focusing on the look rather than the 
structure.
Remark: the "F2" should support the "cut" of all the elements of a list at once, but there is 
an simple workaround, to add a dummy element before the "cut".

- *Rigorous W3C compatibility*

- *Easy hypertext management between all my documents.*

- *But there is an urgent problem of minimal maintenance*:
In 2016 I could no more install Amaya on my usual platform, Linux-KUBUNTU, since a 
security problem did arise.
Indeed Amaya require "libssl0.9.8m" which is deprecated and no more available in the 
KUBUNTU environment.
The provisional workaround was to rename a copy of the new security module version 1.0 
with the old name.
Fortunately the platform interface is still the same and it works although it is of course a 
dirty trick !

From a technical point of view, myself I would not be able to maintain AMAYA, but I could 
contribute to some funding.


Etienne Saliez

tel +32-26541759


On Monday, 9 January 2017 16:04:18 CET Dominique Meeùs wrote:
> I agree that Amaya is «an excellent work done by Laurent, Irene &
> others’ team».
> 
> It is not «the one and only truly WYSIWYG HTML editor». BlueGriffon is a
> very good modern true WYSIWYG HTML editor; Amaya was much more than
> that, editor + browser with special attention to the norms of the W3C et
> cetera, but as editor BlueGriffon does the job nicely.
> 
> HTML is somewhat structured but not completely and it has never been.
> For example, there are no subdivisions: a clever human being might guess
> that what comes under a h2 is a subdivision of a certain level until the
> next h2 (like in a book, a real —paper— book, a subdivision is supposed
> to go from a title to the next looking more or less of the same level),
> but there is no tagging of the subdivision as such. You may use a div
> for such a subdivision, but it is not compulsory and indeed unusual in
> HTML. This makes HTML in a way a paradigm of unstructured documents! If
> you think structured documents you have to write in DocBook for
> technical documents, better in TEI
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_Encoding_Initiative) for general
> documents (afterwards converting the XML to HTML, PDF of whatever if
> needed). (I have been a user of Amaya, but today I write all important
> parts of my website in TEI first.)
> 
> > Amaya is an excellent HTML editor.
> > It is the one and only truly WYSIWYG HTML editor in the whole world.
> > 
> > I still use it in Ubuntu ans Windows, years after developed has
> > stopped. It has a number of details but it still does its work.
> > I use it for all my text processing.
> > The main issue is that it doesn't handle the newer HTML5 tags.
> > 
> > I crave for an open source project to port it to JS and tu be able to
> > run it as a browser plugin or a nodejs application.
> > 
> > Amaya brings up the concept of "structured document", which IMO is the
> > original idea behind HTML 1. All editors let you write structured
> > docs, Amaya actively helps you to do so.
> > A structured document is waaay better than a (done with MSWord) one.
> > For example, in that you can automatically build a significant TOC out
> > of the HTML4 headesr set.
> > 
> > It was an excellent work done by Laurent, Irene & others' team.
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Laurent Carcone <laurent@w3.org
> > 
> > <mailto:laurent@w3.org>> wrote:
> >     Hello Peter,
> >     
> >     Thank you for your interest in Amaya.
> >     Unfortunately, the projet is no longer maintained due to lack of
> >     resources.
> >     We put the source code in github if anyone is interested in doing
> >     new developments [1].
> >     
> >     Best Regards,
> >     Laurent Carcone
> >     
> >     [1] https://github.com/w3c/Amaya-Editor
> >     <https://github.com/w3c/Amaya-Editor>
> >     
> >     Le 27/12/16 à 09:28, Peter Shikli a écrit :
> >         Reading over the documentation, Amaya sounds like the kind of
> >         website editor we are looking for, hopefully because it
> >         conforms to W3C's own ATAG spec for accessibility for the
> >         blind.  But I see mail list communications seeming to have