Minutes: [aapi] UAI TF Meeting Agenda Thu Jun 20 2013

Link: http://www.w3.org/2013/06/20-aapi-minutes.html

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    [1]W3C

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            Protocols and Formats Working Group Teleconference
                               20 Jun 2013

    [2]Agenda

       [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jun/0004.html

    See also: [3]IRC log

       [3] http://www.w3.org/2013/06/20-aapi-irc

Attendees

    Present
           Joseph_Scheuhammer, David_Bolter

    Regrets
           Cynthia_Shelly

    Chair
           Joseph_Scheuhammer

    Scribe
           clown

Contents

      * [4]Topics
          1. [5]ACTION-1200
          2. [6]ACTION-1221
          3. [7]ACTION-1222
      * [8]Summary of Action Items
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    <trackbot> Date: 20 June 2013

    <scribe> scribenick: clown

    RRSAgent: make mintues

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    GVoice is Joseph_Scheuhammer

    RRSAgent: make minutes

    <scribe> agenda:
    [9]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jun/0004.h
    tml

       [9] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jun/0004.html

ACTION-1200

    action-1200?

    <trackbot> ACTION-1200 -- Cynthia Shelly to create table for
    author errors in UAIG, with columns for each API. -- due
    2013-06-13 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [10]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200

      [10] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1200

    JS: regarding author errors.

    [11]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#document-hand
    ling_author-errors

      [11] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#document-handling_author-errors

    JS: Cynthia was going to add columns and value for each a11y
    platform.
    ... Cynthia's proposall is here on wai-xtech:
    [12]http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jun/0002.
    html
    ... I suggested a compromise — to link from the error table to
    the roles table.
    ... But the more I think about it, the more I want to just fill
    in the error table.
    ... there is the danger of keeping the two tables in sync.

      [12] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/wai-xtech/2013Jun/0002.html

    DB: yes, that's true.

    JS: so, I will take a stab at filling in the error table?

    DB: Sure, we can see how it looks, and if necessary, move it to
    the roles table later, if that looks better.

    <davidb> [13]https://github.com/eeejay/specular

      [13] https://github.com/eeejay/specular

    <davidb> [14]https://github.com/askalski/mats

      [14] https://github.com/askalski/mats

ACTION-1221

    ACTION-1221?

    <trackbot> ACTION-1221 -- Joseph Scheuhammer to for ISSUE-559,
    remove the text near the end of the section about ATK/AT-SPI
    about aria-atomic and member-of, and point to the
    aria-atomic='true' entry in the mapping table. -- due
    2013-05-16 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [15]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221

      [15] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1221

    JS: see also issue-559

    ISSUE-559?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-559 -- Missing member of relationships -- open

    <trackbot> [16]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/559

      [16] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/559

    look here, but scroll up a bit:
    [17]http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_event
    s_selection

      [17] http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria-implementation/#mapping_events_selection

    Look for: Exposing additional useful information about the
    context of the change

    JS: the easy solution is to add: In ATK/AT-SPI *and IA2*.
    ... previously we though to remove this, but reference the
    states and properties mapping table.
    ... but that doesn't work because this is about events, and the
    mapping table is (mostly) about data.

    DB: so, how about just adding IA2?

    JS: works for me.
    ... just need to confirm that it works that way for IA2.

    DB: I believe it does.

    resolved: Joseph to add "and MSAA+IA2" to the section on
    context changes where it already discusses ATK/AT-SPI (towards
    the end of section 5.8.2).

    <davidb> so when are all the APIs going to converge :)

    <davidb> (DB and JS discuss ARIA's scope)

ACTION-1222

    action-1222?

    <trackbot> ACTION-1222 -- David Bolter to look into ISSUE-583,
    and think about section 4.3, step 4A to see if that answers the
    question. -- due 2013-05-16 -- OPEN

    <trackbot>
    [18]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1222

      [18] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/actions/1222

    issue-583?

    <trackbot> ISSUE-583 -- Elements that are descendants of an
    element having aria-activedescendant should not all be
    focusable -- open

    <trackbot> [19]https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/583

      [19] https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/583

    DB: I *think* 4A. in section 4.3 is still fragile — or I'm
    unsure.

    JS: the problem is that not all descendants of a container that
    has a aria-activedescendant are intended to be "focusable".
    ... Rich is asking for another criterion so that only the
    intended focusable descendants are marked focusable.
    ... He suggests that the descendant must have an ID attribute.

    DB: but that won't always work since ID might be used for, say,
    styling.

    JS: right

Summary of Action Items

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