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Re: WAI ARIA on mobile

From: Chris Blouch <cblouch@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:34:51 -0400
Message-ID: <4A68831B.7000602@aol.com>
To: Victor Tsaran <vtsaran@yahoo-inc.com>
CC: David Todd <dltodd@us.ibm.com>, wai-xtech@w3.org
It would appear that ARIA attributes which define types of objects in 
the page are the bulk of the ARIA support in Safari 4. List is here:

http://developer.apple.com/safari/library/documentation/AppleApplications/Reference/SafariHTMLRef/Articles/AccessibilityRoles.html

So things like button, img, link, checkbox are supported. Live regions, 
landmarks and other ARIA-specific constructs appear to be absent.

CB

Victor Tsaran wrote:
>
> I believe Webkit exposes some ARIA roles but not too many, to my 
> knowledge.
>
> See http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog for more information.
>
>  
>
> Regards,
>
> Victor
>
>  
>
> *From:* wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] *On 
> Behalf Of *David Todd
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:47 AM
> *To:* wai-xtech@w3.org
> *Subject:* RE: WAI ARIA on mobile
>
>  
>
> Victor,
>
> You mention that these platforms don't support ARIA landmarks.  I'm 
> guessing these platforms don't support ARIA at all yet.  Right?
>
> David Todd
> IBM Human Ability & Accessibility Center
>
>
> wai-xtech-request@w3.org wrote on 07/21/2009 06:33:10 PM:
>
> > [image removed]
> >
> > RE: WAI ARIA on mobile
> >
> > Victor Tsaran
> >
> > to:
> >
> > Boland Jr., Frederick E., w3c-wai-pf
> >
> > 07/21/2009 06:36 PM
> >
> > Sent by:
> >
> > wai-xtech-request@w3.org
> >
> > Cc:
> >
> > wai-xtech
> >
> > Two things:
> > 1. S60 and Safari, which are the only two fully accessible browsers on
> > Nokia and IPhone platforms do not yet support ARIA landmarks because
> > they are not exposed by the Webkit, an engine that powers both browsers.
> > Neither IPhone's Voiceover nor Nokia's Talks and Mobilespeak understand
> > ARIA landmarks even if they were available.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Victor
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wai-xtech-request@w3.org [mailto:wai-xtech-request@w3.org] On
> > Behalf Of Boland Jr., Frederick E.
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 1:11 PM
> > To: w3c-wai-pf@w3.org
> > Cc: wai-xtech@w3.org
> > Subject: FW: WAI ARIA on mobile
> >
> > Fyi for consideration and discussion
> > Best, Tim Boland NIST
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ig-request@w3.org] On
> > Behalf Of Phil Archer
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:27 AM
> > To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > Cc: Shawn Henry; Henny Swan
> > Subject: WAI ARIA on mobile
> >
> > Greetings from Mobile Land...
> >
> > One of the participants in our Introduction to W3C Mobile Web Best
> > Practices course [1], Jeff Van Campen of the London Web Standards Group
> > [2], raised this issue on the discussion forum. As that forum isn't
> > public, I'm copying his mail here as I don't know the answer and I'm
> > interested to know!
> >
> > === Jeff's message begins===
> >
> > I was at WordCamp UK over the weekend (along with fellow Mobile Best
> > Practice students Laura Kalbag and Gicela Morales).
> >
> > As a part of a hacking session Laura, myself and a few other WordPresser
> > were looking at modifying Kubrick, the default WordPress theme, to work
> > in a mobile context.
> >
> > One of the issues we ran into is that Kubrick includes WAI-ARIA roles as
> > of WordPress 2.8.
> >
> > As we were working, we removed them, as this made validation easier.
> >
> > I understand that WAI-ARIA isn't supported on any mobile browsers yet,
> > but I'd like to add them to the code for two reasons:
> >
> > 1. So that the code is future proof
> > 2. So that they are discoverable by people examining the code, who may
> > not know about WAI-ARIA
> >
> > That brings me to two questions:
> >
> > 1. Does anyone know of any issues with WAI-ARIA roles in existing mobile
> > browsers?
> > 2. Is it likely that WAI-ARIA will be included as a module in a future
> > version of XHTML Basic?
> >
> > === ends ===
> >
> >
> > [1] http://www.w3.org/2009/03/mobitrain_course_description.html
> > [2] http://londonwebstandards.org/
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Phil Archer
> > W3C Mobile Web Initiative
> > http://www.w3.org/Mobile
> >
> > http://philarcher.org
> >
> >
> >
>
Received on Thursday, 23 July 2009 15:35:54 GMT

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