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Re: Re: for content review: Involving Users in Evaluating Web Accessibility]

From: Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:55:12 -0400
Message-ID: <005201c5c5e8$1af474c0$9a01a8c0@deque.local>
To: "Shawn Henry" <shawn@w3.org>, "Barry McMullin" <mcmullin@eeng.dcu.ie>
Cc: "wai-eo-editors" <wai-eo-editors@w3.org>

Shawn,
Yes that is certainly OK with me now. Sorry I was at the IDEAS 2005 for the
past two days and could not respond sooner.
Thanks,
Sailesh


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shawn Henry" <shawn@w3.org>
To: "Sailesh Panchang" <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>; "Barry McMullin"
<mcmullin@eeng.dcu.ie>
Cc: "wai-eo-editors" <wai-eo-editors@w3.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 12:37 PM
Subject: [Fwd: Re: for content review: Involving Users in Evaluating Web
Accessibility]


> Hi, Sailesh,
>
> In incorporating Barry's comments, I further refined that sentence to:
"Include a variety of users with different disabilities, and avoid the
pitfall of including only people who are blind and assuming that covers all
users with disabilities." - and I might edit it further as I go through the
document. I plan to post another version later today.
>
> ~ Shawn
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: for content review: Involving Users in Evaluating Web
Accessibility
> Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2005 11:07:54 -0500
> From: Shawn Henry <shawn@w3.org>
> To: Sailesh Panchang <sailesh.panchang@deque.com>
> CC: wai-eo-editors <wai-eo-editors@w3.org>
> References: <432B01F4.2070702@w3.org>
<008101c5bafe$eae9d660$a701a8c0@deque.local>
>
> Hi, Sailesh,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. I agree with much of your statements; however, I
think they are too detailed to fit within the scope of this limited
document. I changed "...avoid the pitfall of only including people who are
blind" to "... avoid the pitfall of only including people who are blind and
assuming that covers all users with disabilities." Does that take care of
your concern?
>
> ~ Shawn
>
> Sailesh Panchang wrote:
> > Shawn,
> >
> > Ref:
> > "Include as broad a variety of users with different disabilities as you
can,
> > and avoid the pitfall of only including people who are blind."
> > Comment:
> >  As noted in the Change log, "involve" is better than include.
> > About including people who are blind:
> > There is research that indicates that vision impaired and blind users
are
> > the most challenged of Web surfers because of the highly visual nature
of
> > Web content.[1] Task completion rates are low and times  required is
high
> > for these users. So the sample of PWD might include more of these users.
> > Blind users depend on both adaptations : keyboard for input and text
output
> > through speech/Braille. Catering for accessibility needs of blind users
> > solves access problems of some other PWD groups as well. This is noted
in
> > WCAG 1 too: "each accessible design choice generally benefits several
> > disability groups". Therefore testing with blind users might uncover
larger
> > number of accessibility barriers than testing with any other group. So I
> > caution against saying"pitfall of only including people who are blind".
The
> > word "only" is the key here and I am afraid ifthe document user
> > interprets"blind user" as the key words in this statement, it will be to
the
> > detriment of     blind testers / accessibility  enthusiasts.
> > [1] Disabled Users and The Web
> >
> > http://www.useit.com/alertbox/9610.html
> >
> > Sailesh Panchang
> > Senior Accessibility Engineer
> > Deque Systems (www.deque.com)
> > 11180 Sunrise Valley Drive, Suite #400
> > Reston VA 21091
> > E-mail: sailesh.panchang@deque.com
> > Tel: 703-225-0380 (ext 105)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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