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RE: Issue 454: Raising Priority of Checkpoints 3.6 and 3.7 related to automatic updates or redirects of content

From: Denis Anson <danson@miseri.edu>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 13:05:57 -0500
Message-ID: <21DEF6A834C3A74E8D74B3355D835B75573A@denis-computer>
To: "Al Gilman" <asgilman@iamdigex.net>, "Jon Gunderson" <jongund@uiuc.edu>, <w3c-wai-ua@w3.org>
Al, 

I thought about the back button as a way around this, but if the change is
time dependent, it will likely forward again before the user can access the
information.  The only time this wouldn't happen would be if you could
orient and begin reading from where you left off before the change, and I'm
not sure that the technology would necessarily allow that.

Denis Anson, MS, OTR/L
Assistant Professor
College Misericordia
301 Lake St.
Dallas, PA 18636


-----Original Message-----
From: w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org [mailto:w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org]On Behalf
Of Al Gilman
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:50 PM
To: Denis Anson; Jon Gunderson; w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Subject: RE: Issue 454: Raising Priority of Checkpoints 3.6 and 3.7 related
to automatic updates or redirects of content

At 08:22 AM 2001-01-23 -0500, Denis Anson wrote:
>Jon,
>
>It would certainly appear that if a user agent is changing the content is
>some unprompted fashion (presumably time dependent), then the information
>would be inaccessible to a person who requires extra time to absorb the
>information.  Since this makes that content impossible to access, that
would
>make these P1 issues.
>

AG::

On the other hand, does the user have the ability to go back after a pushed
change in the content?  It is also possible to argue for P2 on the grounds
that
extracting the information becomes quite hard, but not flat out impossible.

Al

PS:  I am afraid this issue throws me back into a tailspin about the
interpretation of the priority levels.  This is a case where it is not clear
that the distinctions used in the WCAG are the right sort of policy
breakpoints
for a User Agent guide.

I really think that User Agents SHOULD _all_ provide the user with this
kind of
control.  The only problem I see here is in using language to explain why
that
User Agent developers will take as objective and reasonable.


>Denis Anson, MS, OTR/L
>Assistant Professor
>College Misericordia
>301 Lake St.
>Dallas, PA 18636
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org
[<mailto:w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org%5DOn>mailto:w3c-wai-ua-request@w3.org]On
Behalf
>Of Jon Gunderson
>Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:52 AM
>To: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
>Subject: Issue 454: Raising Priority of Checkpoints 3.6 and 3.7 related to
>automatic updates or redirects of content
>Importance: High
>
>I would like the working group to carefully consider raising checkpoint 3.6
>and 3.7 to P1 based on last call issue 454 [1].  It seems that if the user
>agent is automatically changing content and the user cannot control the
>changes the user would not have access to content in some cases.  These
>checkpoints were a P3 requirement in our previous last call and raised to
>P2 last spring.  We now have a request and it seems reasonable to make this
>a P1 requirement.  I would like working group input on this issue.  Please
>send previous rationalizations for the P2 and P3 of the past or your
>support for making this a P1 requirement.
>
>Thanks,
>Jon
>
>[1]
<http://server.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#454>http://se
rver.rehab.uiuc.edu/ua-issues/issues-linear-lc2.html#454
>
>
>Jon Gunderson, Ph.D., ATP
>Coordinator of Assistive Communication and Information Technology
>Division of Rehabilitation - Education Services
>MC-574
>College of Applied Life Studies
>University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
>1207 S. Oak Street, Champaign, IL  61820
>
>Voice: (217) 244-5870
>Fax: (217) 333-0248
>
>E-mail: jongund@uiuc.edu
>
>WWW: <http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund>http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~jongund
>WWW: <http://www.w3.org/wai/ua>http://www.w3.org/wai/ua
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