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Re: Proposal: Single command input and edits tocheckpointsabout "easy access" (2.3 and 10.8)

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:20:22 -0400
Message-ID: <397DDA66.9DD16210@w3.org>
To: Jon Gunderson <jongund@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
CC: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Jon Gunderson wrote:
> 
> Ian,
> I am not married to the term "single command", so if there is a better term
> I would like to use it.  I think the term "direct access" has been used by
> the working group and you have brought it up in some telecons and that
> might be a useful term.

That is still not precise enough, in my opinion. That's why
proposal was to subsitute "easy access" or "direct access" by
more specific requirements (e.g., the four optional techniques
for access to alternative content.

 - Ian
 
> Jon
> 
> At 12:11 PM 7/25/2000 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> >Jon Gunderson wrote:
> > >
> > > I think the concept of "single command" as proposed by Ian [1] is a unique
> > > concept to the keyboard and I proposed that like checkpoint 1.3 that
> > > checkpoint 10.5 be only about the keyboard.  I propose that we say that
> > > checkpoint 10.5 is a special case of both checkpoint 10.4 and checkpoint
> > > 1.3.
> >
> >This is interesting. I wondered yesterday (when writing the email)
> >whether single command should be w.r.t. the keyboard only. However, I
> >thought that one could (logically) justify preferring shorter phrases
> >just as one prefers shorter key combinations.
> >
> > >This way we can use the term "single command" to mean a more generic
> > > command in checkpoints we talk about configuration and single command would
> > > include concepts like a speech utterance, key press with or without a
> > > modifier key, or clicking an object with a mouse.  In checkpoint 10.5 we
> > > can use the term "single key press" and make it clear that this is without
> > > a modifier key.
> > >
> > > What do people think?
> >
> >I don't think the term "single command" that has variable meanings
> >(e.g., key press with or without modifier) is useful. What is the
> >difference, at that point, between "Ctrl-X" and
> >"Ctrl-X Ctrl-Y Ctrl-Z"? What is the boundary of a single command?
> >
> >I understand the desire to have easy, simple, direct access. However,
> >I don't think that "single command" is any more precise. And, as I
> >mentioned, I think using the term "single" in two contexts is dangerous.
> >
> >In conclusion, I think that making 10.5 for the keyboard only is
> >an interesting option that I could live with. But I don't want to use
> >the term "single command" in the document.
> >
> >  _ Ian
> >
> > > [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ua/2000JulSep/0134.html
> >
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