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Re: Comments on presentation/structure related to issue 297.

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:59:32 -0400
Message-ID: <39790E14.D0C989C2@w3.org>
To: Al Gilman <asgilman@iamdigex.net>
CC: w3c-wai-ua@w3.org
Al Gilman wrote:
> 
> At 08:31 PM 2000-07-21 -0400, Ian Jacobs wrote:
> >
> >   I would also note that this discussion sounds a little like the
> >   discussion about content meant for humans v. content meant for
> >   machines. Refer to Al's comments on this topic [7]:
> >
> >     "The distinction between data (raw content) and meta-data
> >     (markup) is an artifact of the view assumed by the author.
> >     There is no fundamental semantic difference between what is
> >     called data vs. metadata.  They both play the same role as
> >     bearers of information  Semantically, it is all just
> >     one class of data.  This is a little-understood fact of
> >     information science."
> >
> >   Al, will you make the same comment about an assertion that
> >   presentation v. non-presentation (or structure)?
> >
> 
> [not promising to have read the rest of the message...]
> 
> No.  These concepts are well-posed enough, even if HTML elements don't sort
> neatly along these lines.

[snip]

> So at least in HTML it is possible to talk about markup with
> presentational semantics and markup with structural semantics, but it is
> not possible to partition the set of element types into two groups which
> are purely one and purely the other.

Is that true for all elements (e.g., FONT) or just some? If possible
for some elements, then I suggest we try to identify them.
 
> Hope this is responsive to your question.

Yes, thank you,

 - Ian


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