W3C home > Mailing lists > Public > w3c-wai-ig@w3.org > January to March 2018

RE: Speech Viewer for JAWS?

From: Wright, Isaiah <Isaiah.Wright@ally.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2018 23:24:53 +0000
To: "Sean Murphy (seanmmur)" <seanmmur@cisco.com>, Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@statefarm.com>, Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>, "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <A5F112782FAF064CB12D49E9B05386EABA7E3181@DFW1MSPMX006.NAO.global.gmacfs.com>
I just got this /z option working and tested it out during one of my feedback sessions. This will be tremendously helpful when I go back and analyze multiple sessions to look for usability/accessibility issues. Thanks!

I wish they also had a real-time speech viewer so I can see what JAWS is saying during an actual feedback session. Some of my participants are super users and use a very high JAWS speech rate. I struggle to follow along and comprehend what is being read. A live speech viewer can help me follow along and process what the user is doing on screen.

Isaiah M. Wright
Usability Research  | Integrated Channels & Experience
440 S. Church St., Charlotte NC 28202
T + 704 444 4694  |  isaiah.wright@ally.com

From: Sean Murphy (seanmmur) [mailto:seanmmur@cisco.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 5:34 PM
To: Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@statefarm.com>; Wright, Isaiah <Isaiah.Wright@ally.com>; Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
Subject: RE: Speech Viewer for JAWS?

As have previously mention, the /z option which does work in the latest version of Jaws saves everything to a log file. Very useful for debugging speech. Jaws from 18.0 and later is meant to show you where the cursor is in a web page. Not sure if the feature is on by default or not.

Sean Murphy
Accessibility Software ENGINEER
Tel: +61 2 8446 7751

Cisco Systems, Inc.
The Forum 201 Pacific Highway


Think before you print.
This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the recipient), please contact the sender by reply email and delete all copies of this message.

From: Tim Harshbarger [mailto:tim.harshbarger.cqwg@statefarm.com]
Sent: Thursday, 1 March 2018 5:19 AM
To: Wright, Isaiah <Isaiah.Wright@ally.com<mailto:Isaiah.Wright@ally.com>>; Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk<mailto:steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>>; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Speech Viewer for JAWS?

JAWS does have a Speech History view, but it only records about the last 40-50 lines of speech and it isn’t displayed like NVDA’s speech window.

If you have the option, you might just want to keep an audio record of the screen reader output if not a video record of it.


From: Wright, Isaiah [mailto:Isaiah.Wright@ally.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 11:55 AM
To: Steve Green <steve.green@testpartners.co.uk<mailto:steve.green@testpartners.co.uk>>; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Speech Viewer for JAWS?

I just emailed them Steve. It looks promising. I can’t find a price tag on their website but I have a call setup with them a couple of weeks and I’m sure they will let me know what it costs.

Isaiah M. Wright
Usability Research  | Integrated Channels & Experience
440 S. Church St., Charlotte NC 28202
T + 704 444 4694  |  isaiah.wright@ally.com<mailto:isaiah.wright@ally.com>

From: Steve Green [mailto:steve.green@testpartners.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2018 12:32 PM
To: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: RE: Speech Viewer for JAWS?

You could look at JAWS Inspect, which is supposed to do this – I will evaluate it when I get some time. It’s not cheap but it could be worth it if you do a lot of development or testing.


Steve Green
Managing Director
Test Partners Ltd

From: Michael Gower [mailto:michael.gower@ca.ibm.com]
Sent: 28 February 2018 17:15
To: Wright, Isaiah <Isaiah.Wright@ally.com<mailto:Isaiah.Wright@ally.com>>
Cc: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>
Subject: Re: Speech Viewer for JAWS?

Isaiah, please have a look at Speech History to see if this is something like what you're looking for.

Michael Gower
IBM Accessibility

1803 Douglas Street, Victoria, BC  V8T 5C3
voice: (250) 220-1146 * cel: (250) 661-0098 *  fax: (250) 220-8034

From:        "Wright, Isaiah" <Isaiah.Wright@ally.com<mailto:Isaiah.Wright@ally.com>>
To:        "w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>" <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org<mailto:w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>>
Date:        2018-02-28 08:49 AM
Subject:        Speech Viewer for JAWS?

Sorry for the double post – I sent my previous email with the wrong subject line!

NVDA offers a great feature called Speech Viewer which allows you to visually see what the screen reader is saying. Does JAWS have an equivalent to this? Through a google search, I found a thread from 2013 that suggested using JAWS Braille viewer. It looked promising but it only displays the first 40 characters of what is being read.

I am a user experience (UX) researcher and I’m conducting some accessibility testing on our site with real users. It would be great if I could read and save everything that the screen reader is saying. This will help me analyze what users did so that I can make recommendations to our creative teams on things they can change in order to make users’ experiences more delightful.


-Isaiah M. Wright

(image/gif attachment: image001.gif)

Received on Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:25:26 UTC

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.3.1 : Wednesday, 28 February 2018 23:25:27 UTC