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RE: Recursive Links in menu bars - continued

From: Jan Eric Hellbusch <hellbusch@2bweb.de>
Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:52:19 +0200
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Kerstin,

the menu item would not be " ambiguous to users in general", because it is
visually highlighted and additional text is included.

Thanks for your thoughts.
Jan



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kerstin Probiesch [mailto:k.probiesch@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:38 AM
> To: 'Jan Eric Hellbusch'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> Subject: AW: Recursive Links in menu bars - continued
> 
> Hi Jan, Andrew, all,
> 
> I'm not sure if recursive links are a 'failure' and therefore a violation
of
> 2.4.4 and 2.4.9. Of course the intent of the SC is understanding the
purpose of
> links and I would agree if the SC wouldn't speak about  "except where the
> purpose of the link would be ambiguous to users in general."
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Best
> 
> Kerstin
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Jan Eric Hellbusch [mailto:hellbusch@2bweb.de]
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 18. September 2012 09:57
> > An: w3c-wai-ig@w3.org
> > Betreff: RE: Recursive Links in menu bars - continued
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > thanks for the input.
> >
> > After reading the replies I think I should put my question differently:
> >
> > When a link in a menu bar is deactivated, because the link would
> > otherwise point to the current page, do any users feel the page is
> > broken or semantically defect?
> >
> > Considerations:
> >
> > * the menu is on a static page
> > * See also Example #3 on http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG20-TECHS/G128.html
> > * text (i.e. "current page") is additionally being added to the menu
> > item
> > * the menu items are designed to highlight current items (also in
> > contrast
> > mode)
> >
> > The point is, that
> >
> > * some people (as Andrew) ask, why should somebody want to reload the
> > (static) page and start from the top, and
> > * other people say, it is a question of usability/expectations to be
> > able to reload the page from a menu item pointing to the current page.
> >
> > Somehow the answer to the above question seems vague. I personally
> > would deactivate links, but at the same time I have no
> > straight-forward arguments other than what Andrew has already written.
> > And, if screenreader usage and highlighting have been optimized, is it
> > still a question of accessibility, or of usability, of both or none?
> >
> > Any more thoughts on the matter?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jan
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