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Re: Accessibility and Readability (A change)

From: GF Mueden@ <Mueden@>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 20:24:26 -0400
Message-id: <5025A63A.1060904@verizon.net>
To: "Dr. Roy Cole" <ColeR@jgb.org>
Cc: Chaals McCathieNevile <w3b@chaals.com>, WAI Interest Group <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, Crista Earl <cearl@afb.net>, Lee Huffman <lhuffman@afb.net>, Aries Arditi <arditi@verizon.net>
Dr Cole called and helped me install Readability after I reported that 
the instruction did not seem to fit what i saw on my screen, and indeed 
there are differences between what each of us saw.  Clicking on 
"Install" changed the name it  put  on my Favorites list to "Read Now", 
not "Readability", but it worked as he said it would.
I tried it with the offending AW article and it reduced the column width 
to a hand span, comfortable for my eyes.  Thank you Dr. Cole.
===gm===

On 8/10/2012 8:59 AM, Dr. Roy Cole wrote:
> Hi George, Chaas, et al,
>
> Sorry if you are already familiar with this but thought I'd respond to
> George's post.  Don't know if it has been discussed, but there is
> program called "Readability" that will pull the text from an article and
> put it in a single  column.  You can control a number of features,
> including column width.  I was able to take an article in Accessworld
> and put it in a column about 4 inches wide.
>
> The program is at http://www.readability.com/ .  When you install it, it
> is in your favorites tab on the menu bar at the top of the browser.
> Open the article you want to read, click on "Readability" in the
> favorites list, and it will format the text for you.
>
> Also, from a low vision point of view, 200% sounds like a lot, but it's
> really only about a 3X enlargement.  You can get that by moving 1/3 the
> distance from the screen, but the angular width of the column becomes
> very wide.  Also, many people need more than 3X magnification.  If the
> magnification in Readability is not enough (it only magnifies about 2X),
> you can scroll the text larger (with increased column width), move
> closer, or both.  But at least you are starting with a narrower column.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Roy Cole, OD
> Director
> Vision Program Development
> Jewish Guild Healthcare
> New York City
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GF Mueden@ [mailto:gfmueden@verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:12 AM
> To: Chaals McCathieNevile
> Cc: 'WAI Interest Group'; Crista Earl; Lee Huffman; Aries Arditi; Dr.
> Roy Cole
> Subject: Re: Accessibility st AFB.org's AccessWorld
>
> Thank you, Chaas.  Close but no cigar.   The needs of those with limited
>
> visual fields
> are not met by full screen width accessibility.    They need a narrow
> column.  That calls for pulling in the margins and having word wrap
> within those margins.  This can be done, is in wide use, but is it
> covered in the guidelines?
>
> ===gm===
>
> On 8/10/2012 6:25 AM, Chaals McCathieNevile wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:01:42 +0200, GF Mueden@ <gfmueden@verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>>
>>> The August issue of AccessWorld, reading the editorial, my old eyes
>>> were the width of the lines away from the screen.  I pulled in the
>>> margins to get a shorter line, but it truncated the lines.  It should
>>> have had word wrap for the benefit of those with limited visual
> field.
>> How did you pull in themargins? Which browser were you using?
>>
>> I zoomed the text in Opera Next (I'm a poet, but it is hard to
>> realise) and the words got wrapped to maintain the layout - up to a
>> certain amount of zoom which I guess was more than 200%.
>>
>>>    Is this problem covered in the guidelines?  Where should AFB be
>>> looking?
>> There are a couple of relevante requirements:
>>
>> 1.4.4 Resize text: Except for captions and images of text, text can be
>> resized without assistive technology up to 200 percent without loss of
>> content or functionality. (Level AA)
>>
>> and
>>
>> 1.4.8 Visual Presentation: For the visual presentation of blocks of
>> text, a mechanism is available to achieve the following: (Level AAA)
>> [points 1-4 are not relevant]
>>    5. Text can be resized without assistive technology up to 200
>>       percent in a way that does not require the user to scroll
>>       horizontally to read a line of text on a full-screen window.
>>
>> This is not exactly brilliant, but it does cover what you are asking
> for.
>> cheers
>>
>> Chaals
>>
>
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