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RE: Quick Poll for JAWs users: Verbosity and Punctuation settings.

From: Adam Cooper <cooperad@bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2012 15:14:05 +1000
To: 'Ramón Corominas' <listas@ramoncorominas.com>
Cc: "'John Foliot'" <john@foliot.ca>, <w3c-wai-ig@w3.org>, "'WebAIM Discussion List'" <webaim-forum@list.webaim.org>
Message-ID: <000301cd7780$229a4ff0$67ceefd0$@bigpond.com>
Hi Ramóne,

"As many other techniques, off-screen text can comply with 1.3.1 (and any 
other SC) if used properly. Indeed, hiding a portion of a link is a very 
useful technique that can help blind users to understand the purpose of 
a link in situations where the visual design doesn't allow the full text 
to be shown.
For example:
<h2>Annual Report 2011</h2>
<p>Last year our incomes where...</p>
<p><a href="report_2011.pdf">
<img src="pdf-ico.png" alt="" />
Download
<span class="hide-off-screen">Annual Report 2011 in PDF format</span>
</a></p>"


The term 'presentation' for 1.3.1 is defined as "rendering of the content in
a form to be perceived by users". I don't necessarily comprehend 'perceived'
as merely 'programmatically determinable' ... off-screen positioning or
supplementary text is useful for screen reader users only, and not for any
other user ... 

And, in the example you provided, why wouldn't you include the "download the
annual report 2011 in PDF" as the alternative attribute value instead?

Cheers,
Adam 


-----Original Message-----
From: Ramón Corominas [mailto:listas@ramoncorominas.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 2:26 AM
To: Adam Cooper
Cc: 'John Foliot'; w3c-wai-ig@w3.org; 'WebAIM Discussion List'
Subject: Re: Quick Poll for JAWs users: Verbosity and Punctuation settings.

Hi, Adam and all,

> And in answer to your question: you should not bother using off-screen
text.
> It is arguable that it doesn't meet 1.3.1 and screen reader users are not
> the only people with disabilities who are going to be viewing the page nor
> the only type of assistive technology used. 

As many other techniques, off-screen text can comply with 1.3.1 (and any 
other SC) if used properly. Indeed, hiding a portion of a link is a very 
useful technique that can help blind users to understand the purpose of 
a link in situations where the visual design doesn't allow the full text 
to be shown.

For example:

<h2>Annual Report 2011</h2>

<p>Last year our incomes where...</p>

<p><a href="report_2011.pdf">
<img src="pdf-ico.png" alt="" />
Download
<span class="hide-off-screen">Annual Report 2011 in PDF format</span>
</a></p>

Regards,
Ramón.
Received on Saturday, 11 August 2012 05:14:42 UTC

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